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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:06 -0600
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To: "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones@pmjones.io>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?
From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey)

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> On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:02, Paul M. Jones <pmjones@pmjones.io> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey <ben@benramsey.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is =
here: https://people.php.net/
>=20
> I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, =
the rules are:
>=20
>> =E2=80=A2 People with php.net VCS accounts that have contributed code =
to PHP
>> =E2=80=A2 Representatives from the PHP community, that will be chosen =
by those with php.net VCS accounts
>> 	=E2=80=A2 Lead developers of PHP based projects (frameworks, =
cms, tools, etc.)
>> 	=E2=80=A2 regular participant of internals discussions
>=20
> It's clear that the second point has not really taken hold, but the =
first point adds the caveat "that have contributed code to PHP", and =
that part *does* seem widely accepted.
>=20
> So unless I am wrong, merely having a php.net account doesn't appear =
sufficient -- code or docs contributions are an additional prerequisite =
to getting a vote.
>=20
> Ben (and others) -- your thoughts? Is it really as straightforward as =
"having a php.net account alone is enough to be eligible to vote=E2=80=9D =
?


I wasn=E2=80=99t answering based on the rules. My answer is based on =
practice. AFAIK, everyone with a php.net account also has access to the =
wiki (you log into the wiki using your php.net account), and therefore, =
also has the ability to vote on RFCs.

Maybe there are some who have access to the wiki without a php.net =
account, and maybe there are some who can access the wiki who can=E2=80=99=
t vote. Whomever has admin access on the wiki can provide more =
information.

-Ben

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