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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:21:04 +0000
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To: Nicolas Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: VCS Account Request: nicolasgrekas
From: salathe@php.net (Peter Cowburn)

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 09:33, Nicolas Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 =C3=A0 08:36, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> a =
=C3=A9crit
> :
>
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > What a bold rejection, a bit surprising.
> >
> > For one, there is a consensus on key community having a vote right sinc=
e
> we
> > introduced rfc. We have been more strict but the consensus remains.
> >
> > Secondly, yes, being an active contributor makes it amazingly easier to
> > actually have a vote, de facto.
> >
> > Which brings me to why we rejected Nicolas request. Nicolas has
> > contributed, and is contributing. Countless on spot bugs reports, worki=
ng
> > on rfc, and working these days on actually providing patches for new
> > features.
> >
> > So I kindly ask to accept his request and if anyone has issues about no=
n
> > (lot of)code contributors being to vote, then bring it on via a rfc and
> let
> > us take a decision from there. But blocking Nicolas is not a good move =
as
> > of now
> >
> > best,
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 7:20 PM PHP Group <group@php.net> wrote:
> >
> > > VCS Account Rejected: nicolasgrekas rejected by salathe /o\
> > >
> > > --
> > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
> > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> Thank you Pierre.
>
> I very much look forward to the rejection being reconsidered.
>

Firstly, I apologise for the rash decision and rejection, and any offence
caused to you as a result.
I made a mistake and it won't happen again. I will no longer handle any
account requests outside
of the docs team. Please re-submit the VCS account request and we can all
move forward from there.


>
> Note that contrary to what is suggested in another subthread, I'm not
> seeking for a community representative mandate nor justifying my request =
by
> my supposed "status" in userland PHP. I did not mention Symfony in my
> application because this has nothing to do with it, please don't make it =
a
> "Symfony wants a seat" discussion. Yes, I'm making it personal, because i=
t
> is: I'm asking on my own personal behalf, as a free and independent soul
> and mind.
>
> My involvement in PHP itself pre-dates anything else I've done in the OSS
> space by more than 10 years, here are my first bug reports, back in 2002,
> PHP 4.1
> <
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?search_for=3D&boolean=3D0&limit=3D30&orde=
r_by=3D&direction=3DDESC&cmd=3Ddisplay&status=3DAll&bug_type=3DAll&project=
=3DAll&php_os=3D&phpver=3D&cve_id=3D&assign=3D&author_email=3Dokin7+at+yaho=
o+dot+fr&bug_age=3D0&bug_updated=3D0&commented_by=3D
> >.
> Since then I've reported apparently 60 bug reports
> <
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=3Ddisplay&author_email=3Dnicolas.grek=
as%2Bphp%40gmail.com&order_by=3Dts2&direction=3DDESC&limit=3D30&status=3DAl=
l&reorder_by=3Dts2
> >
> and contributed to many others
> <
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?search_for=3D&boolean=3D0&limit=3D30&orde=
r_by=3D&direction=3DDESC&cmd=3Ddisplay&status=3DAll&bug_type=3DAll&project=
=3DAll&php_os=3D&phpver=3D&cve_id=3D&assign=3D&author_email=3D&bug_age=3D0&=
bug_updated=3D0&commented_by=3Dnicolas.grekas%2Bphp%40gmail.com
> >
> .
>
> Of course, I'm also involved in userland PHP and I think that's an integr=
al
> part of my application. I can give you some track records on the topic if
> you want, everything is public.
>
> If participating in discussions on php-internals counts, I apparently
> contributed 177 times here
> <https://marc.info/?l=3Dphp-internals&r=3D6&s=3Dgrekas&q=3Db&w=3D4>, the =
first
> message in 2010.
>
> Since contributing to the source code is also nice to accredit my request=
,
> I
> do own some commits in the git history
> <https://github.com/php/php-src/commits?author=3Dnicolas-grekas>. That's =
a
> ridiculously low number of them I agree. Many will consider life itself a=
s
> ridiculous, so I'm still proud of them, very modestly.
>
> And of course, I've got this pending PR/to-be-RFC
> <https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5083> showing I'm not going to stop
> here.
>
> But if that's not enough, what's the bar? Who else passed this scrutiny?
>
> Thanks,
> Nicolas
>

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