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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:32:28 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: VCS Account Request: nicolasgrekas
From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas)

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Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 =C3=A0 08:36, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> a =
=C3=A9crit :

> Good afternoon,
>
> What a bold rejection, a bit surprising.
>
> For one, there is a consensus on key community having a vote right since =
we
> introduced rfc. We have been more strict but the consensus remains.
>
> Secondly, yes, being an active contributor makes it amazingly easier to
> actually have a vote, de facto.
>
> Which brings me to why we rejected Nicolas request. Nicolas has
> contributed, and is contributing. Countless on spot bugs reports, working
> on rfc, and working these days on actually providing patches for new
> features.
>
> So I kindly ask to accept his request and if anyone has issues about non
> (lot of)code contributors being to vote, then bring it on via a rfc and l=
et
> us take a decision from there. But blocking Nicolas is not a good move as
> of now
>
> best,
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 7:20 PM PHP Group <group@php.net> wrote:
>
> > VCS Account Rejected: nicolasgrekas rejected by salathe /o\
> >
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> >
> >
>


Thank you Pierre.

I very much look forward to the rejection being reconsidered.

Note that contrary to what is suggested in another subthread, I'm not
seeking for a community representative mandate nor justifying my request by
my supposed "status" in userland PHP. I did not mention Symfony in my
application because this has nothing to do with it, please don't make it a
"Symfony wants a seat" discussion. Yes, I'm making it personal, because it
is: I'm asking on my own personal behalf, as a free and independent soul
and mind.

My involvement in PHP itself pre-dates anything else I've done in the OSS
space by more than 10 years, here are my first bug reports, back in 2002,
PHP 4.1
<https://bugs.php.net/search.php?search_for=3D&boolean=3D0&limit=3D30&order=
_by=3D&direction=3DDESC&cmd=3Ddisplay&status=3DAll&bug_type=3DAll&project=
=3DAll&php_os=3D&phpver=3D&cve_id=3D&assign=3D&author_email=3Dokin7+at+yaho=
o+dot+fr&bug_age=3D0&bug_updated=3D0&commented_by=3D>.
Since then I've reported apparently 60 bug reports
<https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=3Ddisplay&author_email=3Dnicolas.greka=
s%2Bphp%40gmail.com&order_by=3Dts2&direction=3DDESC&limit=3D30&status=3DAll=
&reorder_by=3Dts2>
and contributed to many others
<https://bugs.php.net/search.php?search_for=3D&boolean=3D0&limit=3D30&order=
_by=3D&direction=3DDESC&cmd=3Ddisplay&status=3DAll&bug_type=3DAll&project=
=3DAll&php_os=3D&phpver=3D&cve_id=3D&assign=3D&author_email=3D&bug_age=3D0&=
bug_updated=3D0&commented_by=3Dnicolas.grekas%2Bphp%40gmail.com>
.

Of course, I'm also involved in userland PHP and I think that's an integral
part of my application. I can give you some track records on the topic if
you want, everything is public.

If participating in discussions on php-internals counts, I apparently
contributed 177 times here
<https://marc.info/?l=3Dphp-internals&r=3D6&s=3Dgrekas&q=3Db&w=3D4>, the fi=
rst
message in 2010.

Since contributing to the source code is also nice to accredit my request, =
I
do own some commits in the git history
<https://github.com/php/php-src/commits?author=3Dnicolas-grekas>. That's a
ridiculously low number of them I agree. Many will consider life itself as
ridiculous, so I'm still proud of them, very modestly.

And of course, I've got this pending PR/to-be-RFC
<https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5083> showing I'm not going to stop
here.

But if that's not enough, what's the bar? Who else passed this scrutiny?

Thanks,
Nicolas

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