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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:03:32 +0100
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To: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthieu Napoli <matthieu@mnapoli.fr>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using PECL without installing PEAR
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli <matthieu@mnapoli.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR
> > with PHP is deprecated](
> > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101 <
> > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101>).
> > However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses PEAR).
> >
> > I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without PEAR.
> > This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it make
> > sense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR?
> > That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. Following
> > that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the PHAR would
> be
> > a first step.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Matthieu
>
>
> I think that makes sense. The only thing we really want/need from PEAR is
> the "pecl" command, and having a single self-contained phar for that would
> be much better than requiring a global PEAR installation, and allow us to
> change the underlying implementation more easily in the future.
>


Also if there is an interest I can give back some love to Pickle (
https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle) and ensure it works smoothly up to
php master or 7.4/7.4+1. The phar releases support pecl.php.net, github or
any git/directory install of extensions.

Best,
Pierre

>

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