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To: Matthieu Napoli <matthieu@mnapoli.fr>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using PECL without installing PEAR
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli <matthieu@mnapoli.fr> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR
> with PHP is deprecated](
> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101 <
> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101>).
> However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses PEAR).
>
> I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without PEAR.
> This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it make
> sense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR?
> That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. Following
> that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the PHAR would be
> a first step.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthieu


I think that makes sense. The only thing we really want/need from PEAR is
the "pecl" command, and having a single self-contained phar for that would
be much better than requiring a global PEAR installation, and allow us to
change the underlying implementation more easily in the future.

Nikita

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