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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 19:04:07 +0100
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Subject: Re: Using PECL without installing PEAR
From: matthieu@mnapoli.fr (Matthieu Napoli)

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> Le 13 nov. 2019 =C3=A0 18:52, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> =
a =C3=A9crit :
>=20
> On 13.11.2019 at 18:38, Matthieu Napoli wrote:
>=20
>>> Le 13 nov. 2019 =C3=A0 18:33, Christoph M. Becker =
<cmbecker69@gmx.de> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>=20
>>> On 13.11.2019 at 17:43, Matthieu Napoli wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing =
PEAR with PHP is =
deprecated](https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101=
 <https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101>).
>>>> However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses =
PEAR).
>>>>=20
>>>> I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without =
PEAR. This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it =
make sense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR?
>>>> That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. =
Following that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the =
PHAR would be a first step.
>>>=20
>>> Are you looking for <https://github.com/pear/pearweb_phars>?
>=20
> Well, these are the PEAR installers.  After downloading and running, =
you
> have a working PEAR/PECL installation.  That's basically what
> --with-pear does.
>=20
> --
> Christoph M. Becker

Thanks. Then that is not what we are looking for: the goal is to be able =
to use PECL without having to install PEAR.=

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