Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107790 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94536 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2019 20:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2019 20:00:57 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBDA2D1FD5 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:52:22 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8560 212.227.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:52:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1573667535; bh=P0odRhv5AJxTGRo9DJa64rxcAbldM6cBtomIafnzfYs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hnoe9WAIXbN5YVmZz/5GGSNrd74NKxJQEPmx//iecvkCF6xCBoPLph3Bfg6IG6T2m IfEjNpM1y6U4dQUWkEwYGB7DuTtThMz8hqB2dXbtqaSa4haKG3+3Ad8xu6QGw2fKTv DI0jUkfcd1257L0s60OfP+pP0/7YThSvK2QkwKWI= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.93] ([84.179.245.97]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N6KUd-1hpYRi2dA1-016dtq; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 18:52:15 +0100 To: Matthieu Napoli , PHP Internals References: <31612431-2903-4E41-8636-C7903DA6083C@mnapoli.fr> <3e87357e-e552-01cd-929a-c68347e6f4bf@gmx.de> <3472F3AA-B226-443B-AE63-A1F671206C2C@mnapoli.fr> Message-ID: <3eb7b7da-cdc1-5367-f569-58d8a1c03160@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 18:52:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3472F3AA-B226-443B-AE63-A1F671206C2C@mnapoli.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2+LyEVPI6EKApNmsAY9Yrb7ALJBhp7FG8xmgnLOIwYG5gzmbpcA GQ4u70VMZ6nglIAeAupgcU32hb9VZmRcuBapdn1K5IY3GBRQbb6XAPrbl25lUIoyXJ8SLrw yHc8Pwp4N8TqQraqee4VMmbjBXYG+vvrshYPcAf2qm7ykijiaqz3TeI+x/AWqcekb9+vZ8E 1h7spftAJmYaZv6KRK6tg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:n2O0V7+2GgQ=:cTmUiNRIrjkzD9Gb1v1afG O99Dy05Pc5cek+nLZ0XV6nNL8lDXr1MlLTR02wpS9yGWUiiulbYYcKOUw84owQHWTl87+exqq nWob3ToVRJbm8Vk18C2+b60NCWV2VGWse4S9CG/zoDbAklAaKQVBmUDvV9c69jk5QrR0vITQy Z3SiQar+crrbz68NicUzlCjW9T0t+qh9j9RtuoYeVqgudEFJnOqzsZBy7AzOQvFpAoQ5YzGYu 0wbwsHgpozywyUgj3Y97/eFlPGfhpcgpLNCFPOlBNkIcYymLoQQLw3UlzMENkUIT+WfIfTkws 9oF/eR0IkCosJEE9EJFGbhpCgHQrhQOUSzvSJIiAWe/6WUl2teZ5bBDeM6Fs4izJ4c3mBPQ8b bcp4AxAw+4iXxdu/x8yFnVSL81DgQFhpvJq+1UDm65kMr6ss4+YDhtWAUU/Nv3Ei8PVIzRUp1 sx4MnzFMnaW/XexVIgziJmdQWlT/So3L+ytftLnwV2Jc2TFeuzSjq/nquBH2sufbtoOkPOuUl hJpAGvw4Z17tIN2QU9SguJXO2aeCKl04YgFD5Seu/S93L3bgql5pF+Ejp6dl/fyocYKEvBWXb T6bhkeA6XMjT0b7jDABEK0fyGh8Oy75tqCzAF0P1IQ8mwM5a81PzvMlRSJcnFZMA99MTqLg5A AtmyL4eTaVGxRBLBUNqqV1BkKKn1xOYbmNxd0cLFQKO+/you+dMtwGF8tUBEOpJsg+R+afOVw uFsRoTwLL7hGO4ePlVCfKdAWkoB1SwDiLnjySUGg1NmRi4pz6p1pC1Xrk9p8EM0Cj9DqtS8uY bayyNdLkS2aHlmVoOA1H71yx3uF5jS7DBmwkTpZ7pbI3hKUH3RElXc/hrvQgAqyGcQGA2RHi8 ADW7v2IWaXrJHrpKSt5JfqR5MMD6Ma4idpHhG8ySs0GoPrh710n2Tyyo0reQTuGHC8DxSznnT Z4QrAPDRQb8g/1EF5fAaogHPv3Af6Joqz0s81m1XYUIgvtCuI2Y55onxpl4ExeOiPJZYv3GAy ad7WWk6eXr+JacJMj6xkyN2WvLn4r3XEC4j688C9vSP8Ggh1gGKYRGJ+AZDEgiggXFKqDPp5e G61BtUdL6Nlxy+NmMApSuQndlFJLE/hCUtbbPCpl67xkUr7oVEkmrPKAQcXifkcR5jZQ9+MaC t8fNA+keWBOrgBihfnuOKZVkFevynaztTafb3f5IubfUhbgGRfOcCePUYP83WNqkOA4IGf2Hm fFjpu3A5LeQC8ENkSfPSFQMwlGorogy+6mXFq973I6cgKIucVMXJmB2CIO1k= X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: Using PECL without installing PEAR From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 13.11.2019 at 18:38, Matthieu Napoli wrote: >> Le 13 nov. 2019 =C3=A0 18:33, Christoph M. Becker a= =C3=A9crit : >> >> On 13.11.2019 at 17:43, Matthieu Napoli wrote: >> >>> Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR= with PHP is deprecated](https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRA= DING#L98-L101 ). >>> However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses PEAR). >>> >>> I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without PEAR= . This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it make s= ense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR? >>> That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. Following= that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the PHAR would = be a first step. >> >> Are you looking for ? Well, these are the PEAR installers. After downloading and running, you have a working PEAR/PECL installation. That's basically what =2D-with-pear does. =2D- Christoph M. Becker