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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:57:38 +0700
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To: Joe Watkins <krakjoe@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GitHub RFC workflow
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 2:35 PM Joe Watkins <krakjoe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Morning Pierre,
>
> > Sorry, no time to dig in our list of current active contributors and
> define the risks for each of them.
>
> That's not what I asked for, I asked for a single concrete example where
> this would have in fact been a problem.
>

Iran, Venezuela (not sure we have some in our contributors) f.e. cannot use
github, depends on the case but either by citizenship or actual locations.
By paid account, banned if based in either country.



> I'm in Spain, and unaware of any access problems ...
>

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kevn7/spain-and-github-are-blocking-an-app-that-helped-protesters-organize



> Can you point me to a story explaining what you're talking about in
> regards to Spain and South America ?
>

see above.



> I'm not suggesting we ignore it, and I may in fact be ignorant of some of
> the problems you are talking about. But, at bottom world politics and
> political instability are not the problem of an open source project.
>
> I'm also not suggesting we move everything to github. I'm simply
> questioning the "owning all content" mantra because it doesn't make as much
> sense today as perhaps it once did.
>

Thanks you for the clarification. I am also all fine to use github. I
however would like to ensure everyone can participate.

Given the current context, in so many countries, commercial companies are
under huge pressures from governments.

Not many care about Iran or Venezuela but I feel like other communities
could be next if things get worst, and not only nation based communities
but religions, orientations, etc. Indeed not in UK or EU, but I am not sure
at all about (too) many other countries.

>

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