Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107516 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50617 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2019 20:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2019 20:02:20 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372032D2050 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS11403 66.111.4.0/24 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B42720EB0 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap26 ([10.202.2.76]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:45:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Mxelz/ y3lAigzC3xiVmCaOCIIu5kkjIXEM87OnEtLiw=; b=pFuuGug7XYmFrk7wH6qpjW WlE3KAbnoZ9QwiD+Q9TP+HDRp00KaekMr6cc4hLf9d9/92dvEsbRW7T45DZ4TlBw sM3+8W2+ofj8Y6/YGufAe0WMmJXOb3z4jSyxR1e0QrJ7abrm/Ung0ob3YA1sQEjs mFqyCVzbBT30jwrljcMXYzHFIe1lpnWJUNe+oGZZxyiOmJloWoxZuZ3EGISYEqRR ZXgkQV+dfkl5arBOP8kb8SCDa8NiKJq4rwXd8eck4bDet2IewFvsXwVb2PW1ENfx gyUnIQfpyWWFkngGmTKePLuwUeeLf1FL4u6GLa5GM779FTrWpYbPdRWFwAppPyGg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrieehgdduudekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdfnrghr rhihucfirghrfhhivghlugdfuceolhgrrhhrhiesghgrrhhfihgvlhguthgvtghhrdgtoh hmqeenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgrrhhrhiesghgrrhhfihgvlhguthgv tghhrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9C06B14200A1; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:45:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-360-g7dda896-fmstable-20191004v2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <64166418-5944-475F-A171-A24AC066AE8F@koalephant.com> References: <5d976928.1c69fb81.db3a8.78daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <413d377a-4ce1-a521-0cb4-5bb37e84c257@gmail.com> <6DFA91F7-0005-453E-A314-A5DFE1A4D3D3@newclarity.net> <82012CD7-088D-4010-922E-AD54186AE37A@newclarity.net> <67A49D41-A65F-4C07-82B2-1C19F17B2200@newclarity.net> <826c5050-6f7b-33c8-d856-60996b6210f3@gmail.com> <580781A9-5109-4B76-861A-4F9FCB6ABA61@koalephant.com> <8676F447-7B15-4FEC-B2EE-46CD6179D7B9@koalephant.com> <64166418-5944-475F-A171-A24AC066AE8F@koalephant.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:44:56 -0500 To: "php internals" Content-Type: text/plain X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals "camps" From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, at 1:53 AM, Stephen Reay wrote: > > > > On 11 Oct 2019, at 13:42, Walter Parker wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:11 PM Stephen Reay wrote: > > > > > > > On 11 Oct 2019, at 12:40, Walter Parker wrote: > > > > > > G > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:10 PM Stephen Reay > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>> On 11 Oct 2019, at 02:59, Walter Parker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:36 AM Chase Peeler You know, I specifically pulled my comment out to a new subject line to respond very specifically to Zeev's "the other side" comment. I specifically tried to separate it from everyone talking past each other about a nitpicky issue that is only a topic of major discussion because it's being used as a proxy war for larger issues. Could y'all please go fight about analogies in another thread, rather than one that was explicitly trying to get away from that silliness? Much obliged. --Larry Garfield