Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107464 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42215 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2019 08:03:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2019 08:03:34 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DAF2D20CE for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 22:46:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15716 95.128.32.0/21 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mx.kolabnow.com (mx.kolabnow.com [95.128.36.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 22:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB193FE for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:46:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kolabnow.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-language:content-type :content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:date:message-id:from :from:references:subject:subject:received:received:received; s= dkim20160331; t=1570686379; x=1572500780; bh=+SJx4j2mu+BNZVBTi76 kg63CuLE+p11RR5bxqy2r4G8=; b=sDwtXXxETKuE9D91XMv9qQZVNs7ciRhZdH8 WDcrzpr/rw+AH0DnFHZpP+dtXJwd/jbq7R+wHuvCgaOWlckyGWtszUbFmSC3rD+K /nDAUQtfgi42zKG4xyQ5clabWcCYrz7ftTP3swlGFZk3gIEb4gxSLYux5Xu7O93M rlwFvXTQiSbVQa41Sbb0drfsZUu85slCC7eAQspH94bp2yAQs+j2icmZBOvcG7Ku gzVNbokti9HbVTQjtK1Mhp6YC1DW0ikduczfQCLxbo29vnukrhwmGeH63xC26H2+ 2xJFapS4Yue0c/G22B7f4cIATinUT4Pf8xg+/pHfeP19Mj6rLfednp0UYPFuGThe xaT4io1LfCFPWq5bDM1BRm68VqJwtUlGiL9CKbtFvZWrNRER5wHUriLskux/VKe+ qMCyY0GaYuyhloBv0gI35aLzlnp+2o/CPmymXi/JSP4gfNBXlSSv60PlAuaZQKJ0 qIpunUhNamlobxLWvooWgkw6f4SY4OgUeadezsfw5b1/KDEnFcOEbMHyCuy+SH/w gInKp2JCUzzxrwaCj6hfmnP2LWp83AxVCf08u3A5U4nXi7Td/roucqumg2qDyh4R zwf/8xAcqpQMH2dh7O/CSAEyMdtqSWNKuz+myk6N+GfFHdkUTy8qjpJ12g+Ckknj 4Xj/4OJ8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mykolab.com Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WrDbdWEQo9bA for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:46:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from int-mx003.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.13.3]) by ext-mx-out001.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 972A55D8 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:46:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ext-subm002.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.6.2]) by int-mx003.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55B5E2030 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:46:05 +0200 (CEST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <67911D3D-CBC1-4847-9F4B-3C895EF84741@newclarity.net> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <4ed1fb31-a8e4-bff7-54f5-c66c95c692c4@alec.pl> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:46:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67911D3D-CBC1-4847-9F4B-3C895EF84741@newclarity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Constraints and userland@ From: alec@alec.pl ("A.L.E.C") On 10/9/19 11:16 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote: > As a straw man proposal there could be a set number of seats (~250?), divided up by how they are involved in PHP; corp developer, independent developer, framework vendor, hosting company, etc. They should participate as representatives of userland rather than as representatives of their own opinions. They would get to vote on things so we could gauge userland's interests, but their vote could only be used to veto an accepted RFC, and internals@ could override the veto if, say, 90% of internals@ members voted to do so. As a part of PHP community I like the idea. I'd propose something that could make the proposal simpler in implementation. Create a poll system where users are authorized to be registered and be able to vote if they are github/gitlab users with >1000 commits in projects where PHP is one of the main languages. I think something like that should be doable and will not require any "paper work". It should give quite good estimation on the community preferences (even if it would exclude non-open source entities). I very much like the idea such vote would be a veto which would rise the bar for an RFC to pass. ps. first time poster, but I couldn't sit quiet seeing what's going on on the list recently. -- Aleksander 'A.L.E.C' Machniak Kolab Groupware Developer [http://kolab.org] Roundcube Webmail Developer [http://roundcube.net] ---------------------------------------------------- PGP: 19359DC1 # Blog: https://kolabian.wordpress.com