Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107438 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8754 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2019 23:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2019 23:10:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF172D19C4 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 13:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com (mail-pg1-x52f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id y35so10977566pgl.1 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cdWsFhhb4+psURzjucByy8sGzylMbjhoG8uC3/dS7Fk=; b=rCIcfc/HQCKXlAoDFAgknNXVf+zA+5I6ll5CZvKEuJY2Xw/9tzbCkfjL8gzto6Mhf7 6cumntKkiv99dunuHyCysyfAvoTeKkdV3eIrYWvJ0khMTOr8JuohAADrpVgu9W+ZErat UPmQtxnBssY63rB1kHfhVhZeUqdv84vjik8HNTlIqlv4LNLQUo664IbNIs0aqUNuHy/a RJn9lEciv53FAOs2WfE894P5bPGF6gLLocQIF+IazpcohW+vxU1siwFmJkVR1Bj1DWt1 jZHg/jL9Z3aWnXLrD+RvikFhqvtzRl/dPiuZkW98rk15m0E93uIe2wApOxcvBay+0Q5A TauA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cdWsFhhb4+psURzjucByy8sGzylMbjhoG8uC3/dS7Fk=; b=E3bPjlSrfnRKv2b3aoiybhNpIYhzH6hR1gmggVoU1PRg0SZueCCP2V9+YQ/UKnKESB hm09cj5JpTmo/8hO9RH2ScGiLnGnSG/1Ltj13t9j80ruwvPCU7Cws1R2s8m8SvGdA1lO Sw0E7Z0ZNYMgMAhtLrgpsalqDyso+qyI9RmoVWjnI4hmhf5V10tFaAsEusUxDBi/MgFp Yv4Ky4Sg2W/i3ahPvZ/h858WotuuyW7LJgoDmm1PRssA/jJpseXIqV5QdP5yueyKjezl DQ05talXaDfM/vnFezfJ5W/w/Ta8iy9B/sKZQQr15Cy3rIMWQwrU3K4Q+cz5eVdDRz9s Whbw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWS3yyTcwlROe9GLdEYEcbIPIK9tIidHEoeuO7pkHF++wRri9/q VoIElkK7Eb5uD64GbWs0mEUd5CE4p3yQyykJpD1HeQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzY55eZpieWynF3aVd9zJKfAYxUnzdSQP/r2xCiwA8iMfRlNiU44LcDWaqGBCAG3YFUUZhoGrC6TNWkrHctaLg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:e987:: with SMTP id v7mr8254596pjy.86.1570567959387; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 13:52:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5d976928.1c69fb81.db3a8.78daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <413d377a-4ce1-a521-0cb4-5bb37e84c257@gmail.com> <6DFA91F7-0005-453E-A314-A5DFE1A4D3D3@newclarity.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 13:52:28 -0700 Message-ID: To: Mike Schinkel Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000050a42605946c597d" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2) From: mo.mu.wss@gmail.com ("M. W. Moe") --00000000000050a42605946c597d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, I answered you privately about this kind of false assumptions and projections. (I have an education) On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:38 PM Mike Schinkel wrote: > > a middle ground about/with silliness? there is none, for people in their > right mind; should people really find/force > > themselves into conciliation about non-sense? I don't think so and > mostly; I have no say about deprecating that; > > but is that a priority? does it harm anyone? someone have died from > backtick infection, it must be according to some? > > and so on. Don't see where there is a heated topic; solely a reminder > about reality and facts. > > > What would a happy medium be? backticks working 50% of the time? > > This is like someone being pregnant, either you are or you are not there > is > > no half pregnant. Either backticks work like they have in shells for > decades > > or they don't work. What's the point of deprecating them without a plan > to > > remove them? A notice without future action is a bad idea, as it sets > > standard that some deprecation messages will not be acted upon. > > Well, those are exactly the opposite of the types of responses I had hoped > for. > > Responses that ignore the concerns of others. Responses that (implicitly?) > insult the intelligence of others. And responses that can only see things > from one myopic perspective. > > These responses highlight perfectly why discussions on this list are so > contentious. > > -Mike --00000000000050a42605946c597d--