Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107341 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31211 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2019 12:04:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2019 12:04:32 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957272D20E7 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pf1-x444.google.com (mail-pf1-x444.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::444]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x444.google.com with SMTP id x127so1261304pfb.7 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:44:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SEXVaURALcFxX14CPTEbIsxHch4p3ADUrb+kH1xbNHQ=; b=RgAXNj1teiBG2ua2lC6HQkFzev9It9f1pVlkJBsgUKyDZXlzmN8cOnEbSpiS3YuaJ1 OvzhXU/uTBRDYOvXSV0mwXYaFo/MVU6y3Vhg6C14POvBOPtSilS+Oqe+jlNrw5sYKsci gMgU9AKcTl0Ovxzrn9+DyP/Y5OUfjmx+tLhYkMRqIbNs3Anl2e5xLSAlw08tufU0+IA5 7S3L0R7kCCKPeZMm5kwqj9ZRf5Y9wos/Ex5SsWipsn3gEAonvLzYgdH4ihZ9zWfxjAc1 qOzwRL4K3DuepI9XwhIltMSHOn94/b3Rr3DPCVd8pGc0wRPKaEP9SKOy+diDjQ4qzyAd oEbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SEXVaURALcFxX14CPTEbIsxHch4p3ADUrb+kH1xbNHQ=; b=EP0anr5Nd4AWunXg2RIM4mf89uN2hau2dCatPp2kkj5ryfpm/2rksGhNjAnbEoMAF9 JwqQkXOXShhITi6dDRc6z1Ac5I6wZKq4rL2nUpw7Y1fptbrMMZttbj/EM/jnx/VOOAiB n2YFVzpY8dU11gBIfL/SHziFgHjPjdEOSx3ecqrZUntiVcyxKMwXd/FdOdJCplVGqjVc xP8QOUcopvxeppJmjDy2G6LhO2fZv84KpOA5FbYnFbSx+QbkySP7Pmy1QzUIm/u1K7BD fErGO9Q/Yl6A8AOA2IdyIhoZvuxmEj/LmW/pUdQOHVAoBJXBmJARXwY38a8kAu/opqfQ 7FGw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV/1GIxZnGUuqxLyrsQwGRobKxW8lYi1fPqavEASxQCl65QYFhc XW43NCtwUaPEHrFoJWpV58rE8j3UWDBCwkNM0yFA2eRuhKWRiA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzeeapj34WgTu84X64OoMrbyy5VIkfbjODFAKC6RlcrKRD9FohYHSby82EX0w62dLw+gq5QAfAre04b8FZG0d4= X-Received: by 2002:a63:ab05:: with SMTP id p5mr8266580pgf.414.1569577446746; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:44:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2145814f-dbf2-9555-138b-4ed51b96522f@gmail.com> <893cc688-c8a2-1da3-e72c-de952f3f774d@heigl.org> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:43:55 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Andreas Heigl , Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Prevent disruptions of conversations From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 07:00, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > the RFC process, which was never designed to regulate > the most fundamental communications channel Systems grow, and sometimes are used for things outside those that they were initially designed for. An example of this is PHP, which is used for many things other than 'homepages'. >'Adversarial' off-topic discussions are best off not happening > at all, but if they do happen - it's best that they're super > short and taken off list. There's no need to bug everyone > with the drama. I strongly disagree. Theoretically, if someone wants to send 'adversarial' communications to other internals contributors, they should either do it where everyone can see those messages, or not send them. sincerely, Dan Ackroyd