Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107198 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24685 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2019 00:46:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2019 00:46:33 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCB32C2EF1 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:23:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com (mail-ot1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id 67so4574744oto.3 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FgoZGarG614CXxaokc8sqyTwyjg3eNQqaUCd5Sq4qrM=; b=anm2c4RoFj1TglABcLiDCkfJNmry8eRiYXM7kdPLCB8l10gT3hR6+rSwHmeqRN2hJX sROrj12QLdSW2lMHfi4/32m0iwi4uBqY0Wm7lKhoCQs9xlxW/G9myb3Wl94qYm3ceQcL jz4wHHpoMWITT1oXGnnqFnWfJhBlwc6ofbBDmzcwMASt0IDGF84MA6jZ2XbmeJSUHMcZ CW6Fx08gDoNn64oqVA7JiLAI/Db2NiQpb3PEkfGs6EEWKQF1N36UGjzxlv8Xp7RYJdZl w3xeyfufXp0wi5G/wxoJ6+aoauuHarKj44BbxSQw8pePczWpCeJqn0HEt/8E7842CE99 Po6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FgoZGarG614CXxaokc8sqyTwyjg3eNQqaUCd5Sq4qrM=; b=F3b7zH0sVvg3VwB6VBVIlrzmfmZVdD8Cx+THfkf20g5tGKPDAh1WhOVygxvlNnR3So NY1Ybe6DMWttcXIp4oboTwn3WQJLJhAHYKsYZRLdw4LU+UR2TBrKQVIaarPo52plJJRc bnxOFCfiYLLFTW1RfrFT8F9aOH1Z5kYwGptWG4AVED8n0XfcW5g0jTphUDzKN2erbBdQ rpK0ytMWcxdOCMGkp1mxr0xFCiNvEqxFZgQlJXT8I106K/eONiaU82Ng2cMKOgFCLfeU FSL0Q7lD4Y+FalaGVc162nLWzKJzb1MqkYLurFm3ndPfHOD40AqlDTBYKQKJWLhMAOtD Trgw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWnmP57/R1VbSHO4Tv77En4qaoVzV2NCmyuvoMzfuTLeP1AaEA6 dNikijsjYFiLxPWa7PD+AGgljlCj2+6clG008Vo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyURJZMeJu8A5ykMz0FYw4O3NoDNws/kbAfyRco2YEP6R1fFY8nQmeivz0dPdPpelSsIMA4SBs9znxqsmTOh5A= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7d09:: with SMTP id v9mr626351otn.1.1568759026289; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:23:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 23:23:27 +0100 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals , rasmus@php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008011af0592c72ca5" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: oludonsexy@gmail.com (Olumide Samson) --0000000000008011af0592c72ca5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I don't think there is a valid way to define "fundamental BC breaks" or "mere BC breaks", all votes will always be a reasonable vote as much as there are people to vote on it. Whats special or different about BC break that would require slim margin or consensus votes on where this is dealing with people from various continent, language and ethnic? Would that imply you don't want any BC breaks at all? I think if there's any valid arguments against or for any RFCs or votes, the internals at that time can determine how best to make the voting work. I don't see any good or valid reason to make a kind of change requiring a special kind of vote that looks like it was intended to never pass, why 10 to 1? Does that mean everyone must agree to some kind of change and because there's 3 people not agreeing, such votes must be counted invalid? I think this isn't a good decision IMO. Majority should always be majority regardless of who seems to be in the minority. Why don't some people like being in the minority group, which whenever such happens they would look for a way to gather public minorities to argue their cause or probably edit RFCs to notify newer voters about who is disagreeing? --0000000000008011af0592c72ca5--