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([2601:c0:c67f:e34e:f4e5:82c9:8e75:5377]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n85sm8050322ywd.17.2019.09.16.12.57.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5ADF4E8A-3C08-4EAC-A1BD-5596F6F31091" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <61037.4e385490.1568656659.nsm@avilys.eik.lt> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:57:29 -0400 Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <3EF0B0F0-E62F-43C7-B198-C0165FE685C3@gmail.com> References: <61037.4e385490.1568656659.nsm@avilys.eik.lt> To: Tomas Kuliavas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's declining(?) popularity From: mikeschinkel@gmail.com (Mike Schinkel) --Apple-Mail=_5ADF4E8A-3C08-4EAC-A1BD-5596F6F31091 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Tomas Kuliavas = wrote: >=20 > If you claim that language is good or popular while being slow, you = are > not telling where this language is used.=20 To be clear, I was only quoting the top level points for each of those = articles, for full transparency. And that point was only made in one of = numerous articles, and not one I generally agree with. =20 Instead the point I was trying to emphasize was "simple and easy to = use." So, maybe do not shoot the messenger for dropping off an outlier letter = while delivering the special delivery package, please? =20 And maybe go leave your comment on that blog post, instead? :-) -Mike >=20 >=20 > 2019.09.15 06:32 Mike Schinkel ra=C5=A1=C4=97: >> = https://medium.com/@trungluongquang/why-python-is-popular-despite-being-su= per-slow-83a8320412a9 >> 1. End-users just don=E2=80=99t care (about slower performance) >=20 > Which means that your code is running data processing and not = interactive > user facing frontend. Put 10 second delay in your web page and ask > viewers, if they care. >=20 > If you claim that language is good or popular while being slow, you = are > not telling where this language is used. Super slow interactive = frontends > are not acceptable even if it is reality in corporate world. Designers = of > such slow frontends are thinking about features that they have to put = in > there and not about user experience or how to implement those features > without making end user drink five coffee cups to fill one form. >=20 > --=20 > Tomas >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20 --Apple-Mail=_5ADF4E8A-3C08-4EAC-A1BD-5596F6F31091--