Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107160 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8823 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2019 12:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2019 12:03:53 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276312C9127 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com with SMTP id d204so468175vsc.12 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:40:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7uW+PbXm3s57b3MblZeS7uqxUyE02tAm8e8hXXkCBdw=; b=Eof9S0IAGYYzlhjSzdSAdF+dtB6KaO35OB83n9ClTIvFr46Db9Kv9nye452s67/Txh MxZBMkDqoOCaPD5akUHANvYUpWnwYmpRexjQt5hKlYQMrOxvVFpDG+nBJwegN3wPPYR8 NhByeVoAnJmBLI9RIIDr3dPxtFKbr7vEyh17ddWtqIOjV5TP34PiaLkbHsY3iso3ogp0 XzDG90h8GcSUgSfLC5K1l0VZP8uteXdCp93qZ5hRCg/yyPkmsVZKEhAMAXY0sV2eCcC2 Q0l7hS+N5LkxLPONuQuVl55Klv6Ey4QREQ2cS0zanV+Y++1Wd3B1YbiNEq8PEp4AV38d fCxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7uW+PbXm3s57b3MblZeS7uqxUyE02tAm8e8hXXkCBdw=; b=qL0LxKPyrMU/9oHi5UIUY9aP0FfXzx+hV51xuTM/bMTleBvj8WAVsVJWINOD46EKYI ISXiuI7jOipIhqpb0uFj+5CJIFnJbHLJVHCL12MifpNtuHtUgoUbL9Ao5nafTnvbcucd NXadpjTuGPprgKLz9zPvcF/8uuy9Xqax18nauSae46+ynw6eF8oVDJTq8WY2JW0jsNr4 YjgkAe/zNFSfRhl84uW42ciNNwqB5U3W+GKjUwKbbB9yFUTgeL6mu4UQ5og/Mrhs3MNi 0HvEavIBzTwcqDm9PCRmdi6iHaLgwooAo6B9Y2LzRK7mVgrG2qWkezjhldh5VFSbRQLH FWjg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWC2jBJ/7rOQ7z8eDqcMUDyPQK+VaDso4WGvlwwFJRbIiYzmcl6 V1qAZFejzoCmt99yhwDhN+3IXdW0j1G15iNoaHBeTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqylmX6Vha1teDFSlTfR6oKnZwsVkFEAvuUxoMc8lY8Mi9URW6+lFiV3tcBZsMNVGSJRTaTtgGDClrr9dxYFLPU= X-Received: by 2002:a67:d905:: with SMTP id t5mr1190346vsj.109.1568626843796; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:40:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:40:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Peter Bowyer , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cf47c30592a86554" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: krakjoe@gmail.com (Joe Watkins) --000000000000cf47c30592a86554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" For there to be a veto, of the kind that anyone can actually use, it must be established somewhere. What you are talking about simply does not exist, you can assert all you like that "the group" can do whatever they like, but they have no means to do so that any other contributor needs to recognize. I'm not going to discuss the legalities of what it means that the group hold copyright, you and I are not lawyers and that conversation is meaningless. Cheers Joe On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 11:35, Pierre Joye wrote: > Hi Joe, > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:25 PM Joe Watkins wrote: > > > > Pierre, > > > > I repeat, there are no vetos, for anyone. > > Sorry to factually disagree here. Whether I or you like it is not > relevant here. > > By the way, can we focus on more important points, I do think that > will bring the whole thing a bit further up the hill. > > Best, > Pierre > --000000000000cf47c30592a86554--