Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107155 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96640 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2019 11:27:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2019 11:27:33 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB132D08EE for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:04:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id v8so2617674wrt.2 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=A03flXKgEnoEZs9v+pJL8RsU+jmoAnD8wkIj7FOgrGY=; b=J2ZJ/7ebBC5BfessW3/AFFWCQ966YAan18F2D+UlVrFGN5vidJ6Yb1FknCGcDQzPe3 JVKI7+9nRKWsarJB2EINnCTWdkZhjb7G+25nwZtJhrP13Clad08Nrsrhgvhod68w4cAA 2koMIO1phM9RQuRP5gb/sbdRZDIlLUO2EMmCOU9zMHXo1WODUMOqc1W3QAwh7gPD3o21 ye9Sk81lh0R1eACvnEh7U+H7r2WAIDbe9c7yhH4IizC3so9flaJmxuPCUSWeXnWgZRBm pR063vno3cuV1OfxVHNY5wTUD4ptZnG57N+VzseByz+wL0OjDJRw9UTUXmdDd4EnMZ6Q gQzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=A03flXKgEnoEZs9v+pJL8RsU+jmoAnD8wkIj7FOgrGY=; b=M2Nq9dTIDoWZMmZu5ZluCT7K96D0N+fTwfiObfLL8Lsv+AF83pR+dnlfPDTn2t+HoH wd2mmrATnvfkmrlpgk+WShpVBFiS2ptBU/PaZWvPUHnrt5els54PceQW6wNMlxZ84Ik9 aMMS9cx2fMH8KomO134+qhM+SZQspRZB3bXdBLiY05q+atZ9BRkMmOa/8gikMgVl/MAb dUNfRGow3t5B7kIY1OcWPXe9v4rRc9w1/kjWpF4K3WTgTDdioia9SNJi+4HcCy7K6l6X vLE6Pyir+IKU2BRQdcjhiMBhJmEQbWXegtLbWJakKkTPQZ/CbuN3tAENzrKcEYzFiGOi glZA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVszfcqyWlFKU2DH+eziKmyAEQxocAkwU6Yb6xVLCGtYeHbU42e 72hoWlXl5kD6EnSoEAkC3UkIfw/T/tjpcSDhUtU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxM1gQM6YCH3pfek5fdfk31CzbH1UogfVFTgLGK/fyJS4Fl1hwzI2o9zCWe/UFy7z5EueALzP7N1SdD+/rDJuk= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e392:: with SMTP id e18mr8978211wrm.87.1568624662520; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 02:04:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:04:11 +0700 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Peter Bowyer , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:01 PM Pierre Joye wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 3:49 PM Joe Watkins wrote: > > > > Hi Pierre, > > > > > The RFC process defines a veto and could be applied when needed. > > > > Can you show me where that is defined please ? > > In the current version, there is no mention of veto, which surprises > me. It was definitively something that was in it. Zeev, Andi, other > and myself discussed that part to hell back then. I cannot dig the > revisions (the wiki box is extremely slow right now). If it was not, > then we failed in the very first version as it was definitively agreed > to have that veto (tbc :). And 500, so I give up digging :) By the way, the Group could do it anyway given the license and co. However, again, the group never did it and will most likely never do it anyway. The key points in my reply were other, which you may consider to discuss rather than something that will never happen :) Best, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org