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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:49:17 +0200
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To: Peter Bowyer <phpmailinglists@gmail.com>
Cc: Zeev Suraski <zeev@php.net>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group
From: krakjoe@gmail.com (Joe Watkins)

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Hi Pierre,

> The RFC process defines a veto and could be applied when needed.

Can you show me where that is defined please ?

Cheers
Joe

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 10:36, Peter Bowyer <phpmailinglists@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 14:16, Zeev Suraski <zeev@php.net> wrote:
>
> > > How can an undefined group have copyright vested in it?
> >
> > It's very much well-defined.  And certainly not by Wikipedia, but in the
> > PHP source code and the php.net website itself.  Right at the top of the
> > Credit page:
> > https://www.php.net/credits.php
>
>
> Respectfully, this is a list of people who are identified as part of the
> PHP Group.
>
> My understanding is copyright has to be vested in individuals or
> legally-recognised entities. The PHP Group is neither of those. The
> wording  "Copyright The PHP Group" is different to saying "Copyright the
> individual contributors (hereafter referred to as "The PHP Group").
>
> This led me to check that contributors to PHP do not have to assign
> copyright to the PHP Group (I checked
> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
> <
> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#copyright-and-license-headers
> >).
> So what are the PHP Group holding copyright over?
>
> As ever I welcome being set right if this is inaccurate.
>
>
> > > And more
> > > importantly, how would it defend or deal with a copyright infringement
> if
> > > "The PHP Group" is not a recognised group or legal entity?
> >
> > Thankfully, copyright infringements are practically irrelevant as far as
> > the PHP license is concerned.  License violations are also pretty much
> > irrelevant, with the only practical exception being someone breaking the
> > clause that requires them not to use the name 'PHP' to promote a
> derivative
> > product.
>
>
> I'm pleased that has been the case.  Long may it continue.
>
> Peter
>

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