Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107111 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60010 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2019 16:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2019 16:57:50 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3842C43CF for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:34:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id d17so51028946ios.13 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:34:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hLU5hVk3Pn1LPbrpO8UnICS44ThsYDVTMmKyYxNHu9Q=; b=fIuXWwHo6SVmjCLqENnPV6O+PmDrAPDDqXYD9O8lkzoWEmlnIc2NnYcYjw4qd4vKdX c2qefEAyFHlt5HUuBqY2bUXcqW22wpD7awRc/ItPjcDCScZ5OnykKa2SigdvXyLe4XAC gAJB6kmW0qHNGU4asBZH8YYBCy+TnCbJcaAT2GP+H5EoXWuE+aDILSqbcYOeUBQ4PAIz kVT61GZB/2fws68bORT9RYLjRrE4CaHRdjydUPbu7T4+Ud+3dxZCrWauar7bX4SCrzFV MVp7rS7w41vVkbsaqLnE49nvcJxFkRz0OsOwLc+F+6o/gveqM/JqRblD1UicXossaB55 9nTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hLU5hVk3Pn1LPbrpO8UnICS44ThsYDVTMmKyYxNHu9Q=; b=qSP0nnIRBaGNivQMPeTHaxc9sRtBTLOfwUTgDS+5uqgPe1ZhXcE3+V/932S91f3HOv b843aVYllNIcoEBEOPJyxXnDdE2qbJn7441pm3xq59m7rPVu2NB+FwVMHcYZ8+C0QCqs Cqx4KOpON7BzOLr0wXFo2BsKDOj2V0CjzbuDVhpmuaPcm173l1zTjww82ixqt4bjb03w F3GxwG2mvj5DK3R4nhIw1LS8TdaImGaBXgFw3PIdbRxAjefxJk+wn2DHdF0IFc6m1Tln RYN/NxmmkTl0YpE1jo0HB7ursTyAhAXODiViC+uqxG8VD+G9hCCp6R+wgEelZONZtJHK 1/8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUHyfb4Plmz5rCmNWeDvt6pREfRM0qp5O+QSxGbbC6Y5rYYMdKv olkNEvfPVT5YRLA3t7jsmfosYo4HkCDzXJZrRaA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyS7LfZDP+B4FSIU9+tffOkxM1j8ublh+nBCPw3Lnp7kmIPnO6ZAaOF2LEHUBowCx48QvMup8tIAacoJAcGY7s= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:8e:: with SMTP id v14mr35988346jao.72.1568558069172; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 07:34:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:34:17 +0300 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP Internals List , Dan Ackroyd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000085d102059298624c" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) --00000000000085d102059298624c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 17:28 Zeev Suraski wrote: > I think it's clear you don't realize how rude you are, no surprises there. > I'm not going to continue discussing this topic with you. You seem to > think my words carry no weight, I'm absolutely sure yours don't carry any > weight - let's save everyone some time mental strain. > Your words carry weight which is mostly a burden. Your discussions in the last month(s) have been detrimental to actually improving the language, by distracting, driving away and annoying contributors that are otherwise very much interested in discussing improvements. Dan's words do carry weight too, and it's the the weight of frustration of having to continuously deal with this unnecessary friction. > > --00000000000085d102059298624c--