Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107107 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48404 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2019 16:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2019 16:07:26 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B472CE19C for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pg1-x530.google.com (mail-pg1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::530]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x530.google.com with SMTP id i18so17807508pgl.11 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:44:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LylHb7d/0iO8Nw+kOEm1gb8rcojV8PQre8CpLvowzHI=; b=bqqT7CJBklIlyVlwq6rBDh2pm9bILykQ3aElH4DNXp7h/pSDgFzEIDxr+Ca4LdJiSC FXjBR8XCUdTla12tgqT03/MxTvpRBQ8CqzrlqbDn85UgcbmaV1q+NCpPbkr6HV4j9eUL HoTsThhTag5cufnHqn1RIOCrV8lMYlLxR37zetm59uw1Yigerd4OeUHlc4T/3sV3YlY/ gfNvo2R61YL7aI2adWzKVVsjrRsxRmqw0UM86eDmf1oA4WRaUjwWJfTbdNrHefi7d17j OJvMFx2mlHCKQRH075PTTS+GXLetT4f0wuEZMHee81kdvRQTkwJZTS3lX/1TAFupSumc jTbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LylHb7d/0iO8Nw+kOEm1gb8rcojV8PQre8CpLvowzHI=; b=XwN1Ziw7ueKFxtggUOHTgMImE7Q1lbUfaYJYjYfAFnDoI5Rx8jnKrVk8dzteTvnOvQ msAaSIhhBMJq2b8l4i5H4eiaFIbEX/qbfMXa2ZNzC4/UfqU2buT2h+pZ9PRcXO6Z4Nja 5qbRV9C5W8wG0n/NVtBcvDMzG8qo+yw/sn0HWSQSE2EzaPFPCoJLYEtHqUQcX95Z6pAJ txwwBC200z98nvG6pXbiqo6y51od8BRJLJ57qs/iM1zKYyVqH0cltCB1IEwUn7i4f/Tp gMFiNrPpi5yqM4yXwBs13S0S0ZVz47myek7IGwzbqf5oAKi3jT9DUTltE6Dfer2L0usS qORA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXBBfLz5WV8WdfdTdMI7RA2fNe2eRZAX3L2h6BMxcwIWVZLwP7O reY0VWCWV+2Qj4D1Lg8LLe88ukdRR7ZgBFAt4Q2y2g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqweIozCFnq5cj40ydoWu7UuWRD8tzh88IsKHCNrpqa4nG6Y49FxJ+fMb32/pm0BeA6UCnAwi5bE1x3ojBjxMJs= X-Received: by 2002:a62:870a:: with SMTP id i10mr33087016pfe.259.1568555044195; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:44:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:43:53 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 14:16, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > We a new mechanism for deprecations/radical changes The current maintainers are not bound by choices made by other people, years ago. No-one wants to break stuff just for the sake of it, but we are free to correct mistakes that were made in the past, and also revisit decisions that were correct at the time but are no longer appropriate given current circumstances. I ask you again, please stop trying to impose your will on how PHP is maintained. It is not appropriate. If it continues, we are going to have to look at bringing in a code of conduct to prevent this disruptive behaviour from being such a negative effect on other people. cheers Dan Ack