Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107105 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40853 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2019 15:38:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2019 15:38:06 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1232CFE68 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:14:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pl1-x641.google.com (mail-pl1-x641.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::641]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x641.google.com with SMTP id m9so15366024pls.8 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:14:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ThmTcJhijtbKPNBsI5gomIWPrrWygOeNtR+BuLGnjyY=; b=pYL3toxhCwnAieNTTzlCaqeRUEN8GhaD9YFb5T5rE8vXT8knIbIZOt9q8XTHc9+LF/ IMP44PAv9A877BTqYjv6s0z5MAzNEEGI47JayknWbNs2ya06CsStpo4WyGnUudTvsVfU QHYrTBqxl5XVz3WVMVFNm+qCAut80p1TnJ5a/ENoFEaJd5JQ40k+Ryy/ZJV3RdgthFYS ZrWqJ9211FW9ccKstgVIY8uCfKeF8U5fDnqriAvgCMP33ygYW2EXHCERCrgQFIccye0A x7dsT/q2oWtorr9JNtnxd30E1TSbjn+hnRyh5sLLWOLICSJgNGLZS/23QoQjjrHHUpDt rBAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ThmTcJhijtbKPNBsI5gomIWPrrWygOeNtR+BuLGnjyY=; b=cUjSryf5rQnENcJ2Uaab53gHBlOrfBDHNDFgUw75jUglaMKfzp4gl5ml/9CcDZa/oa fxetlWxpDDGA6MRMVJ0ICGCydRhD5kojTcatanQmuTS0mgjsR/2xn6rnfpNzXGRx9UQB ny7iEx8SmLuUGLnNB9GvwMroYUKf9Lvk/NzGpELNljh/swiBjiKvwjw+16MuqNRFc3Zb b9W8BLHMKOdKARWr1by1AYKRHvZd7trYTUeSJXSdVxhNVd4PpDLO+2te894GUYXvdPtA AXpwQYvCL2uNYL9ZRUMpeM35ciitcfr3SgBp2i5IMBZVB+toeI+i2FQEkUR0uMQGMKPi LTkA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWqKEp6kGAW9eGHx9nmGCj+9znde1Bln6AfZFKMDkjPnxMvhVvN EmW1XumQ2wXBAS63P7NO9SOzeXRVkHVs9oTp4oCBkg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw+wIC/ISvmnxaRErebflyFZ1LFO9qavAfS2dStRXGo/sPOFXeVCkhU9SFs/gOcgiJnsxB78J5UjOXww7fpI+s= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b288:: with SMTP id u8mr17834366plr.127.1568553282979; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:14:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2EC3BC5F-CE24-4CB1-868E-419919C15D7D@pmjones.io> In-Reply-To: <2EC3BC5F-CE24-4CB1-868E-419919C15D7D@pmjones.io> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:14:31 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Paul M. Jones" Cc: Joe Watkins , PHP internals , rasmus@php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Defining the PHP Group From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 13:57, Paul M. Jones wrote: > Some things simply have to be off limits. What are those things? PHP doesn't currently have a constitution, so currently voting is the only way of deciding things. Also how we vote is one of the things that people are allowed to vote on. Even if we had a constitution, like the US does there would still need to be ways of changing it, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_amendment > This strikes me as yet another attempt at a power grab > ...only the current passion of a mob. Your opinion would have more weight if you contributed more to internals, other than popping by occasionally to say nasty things to people. cheers Dan Ack