Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107058 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47943 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2019 11:13:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2019 11:13:53 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486E2C8246 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:49:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-ot1-x335.google.com (mail-ot1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x335.google.com with SMTP id 21so28694857otj.11 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:49:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=//KkDfm1GdyQss6n1MlA2hvdvkBpL5+2PEcBXxU4VIM=; b=ZpM930H27X4khzzpZ1f1goYOnm9LWmkTiSakL8M0/egWjP1vXyJWGNzOAqq52Y4X9i xUSKj/gN/P5WaH44qo4jv7+kaVEq4PEOXsZCkC3oXQpokyV8xHCElHJJIDh9Tq7X1X1+ bfncqz9HEF29EPQRR3CnAvx0GVXKXmDzcaEycLCzUgQHjl0B48vzMCL8aqNdkTjWW60t K27S3SvYNVW/WR82RzIheGkeP9DgcomkIU2hRwo1El8DIuWnAQXzCKQsRG/Bb8GfX0V5 xrCRHcRe8rJAjyQpEWif+1AUZm9PEvwBtHrzQ1+KitbevgQt4ARovVHaLVtUMM7p7fhX Mj5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=//KkDfm1GdyQss6n1MlA2hvdvkBpL5+2PEcBXxU4VIM=; b=Um3niG2LKIsyLx8MiD51woyrFhtj41+R4VA+uEGemR4lF9FrZtcawNOQHE4XM4TOWd T4G+CWmWI46282pCCBiUNmDOK/WEEDBDWBJY0kWsBkMFSxzrpjF7nfs2L1tO25XVXOyy AMAvoaRdQl79VZ5QJtbquRC+ymdHZS0jgMKu8IBBii+7BbTP6pNp1rmUL5qKmljWAFF1 r3MyXcS/+5j8K3lpxiPPzAChToa8njEEzuBWWDckABEsENNXQ/0WqKlUE7Mi4a+gW9Zl m3y2W5sz28yVLyLVIwI9ufMaKsTKo/E2itMUh4JLtjfgf7u1toSv6swN+4kEdZvrRjLp 3TbA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUYv8/FQOlHK9ITqrsUci6MVep5SDL9e30cwe5bg1iwwCx+l3Ml CoAU4broqWZmjepuPpfxlmudNSXtscT66/pe7PquTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxLRPvRs2HD7VqsX3GzVTU1NAv+jGJhBIHmBmrgw1fSuT58o7L0qlmBWh0REXGKne22ZDeYG9jYxoOjOZDK8uw= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6190:: with SMTP id g16mr16832519otk.302.1568364597686; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:49:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <39b23737-06f5-11d8-0587-23c7e8a24fb9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:49:28 +0100 Message-ID: To: Brent Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b938b005926b56d0" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Offtopic discussions From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn) --000000000000b938b005926b56d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 09:30, Brent wrote: > Hello all > > I've noticed a trend in many threads here on the internals list where an > RFC is being discussed, but one way or another we always end up with the > same offtopic conversation about how PHP should evolve. While I think thi= s > is a good conversation to have, I don't think it's beneficial for the RFC > process to have the same discussion happening over and over again, > effectively having the RFC discussion hijacked by another one. I can only > imagine it must be quite difficult for the people working on these RFCs t= o > filter out ontopic from offtopic content. > > Here are a few examples: > > - Reclassifying engine warnings (https://externals.io/message/106713) > - Short open tags (https://externals.io/message/106384) > - Namespaced scope declares (https://externals.io/message/101323) > - Call-site send by ref (https://externals.io/message/101254) > - PHP 7.4 deprecations (https://externals.io/message/106012) > > Maybe someone has a good suggestion on how people can voice their opinion > on the future of PHP, without polluting several RFC discussions. > Start a new thread (or threads) instead of replying to RFC threads. =F0=9F= =A4=94 > Kinds regards > Brent > --000000000000b938b005926b56d0--