Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107036 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24792 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2019 02:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2019 02:14:48 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E8D2D2039 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:50:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-vk1-xa31.google.com (mail-vk1-xa31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa31.google.com with SMTP id v78so5567803vke.4 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:50:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5w8dQKpEdmTvegyAcfOD2tXPdlGaVPxAIlEtgombwWY=; b=dEa/TIxT3Kepv2ZDB2MYLh6KkpE5FXe7PHUGlLf3bZh4P5I14q9J2MhF/k5H7S98BV 2iZBZTvuUFgpkkvhIuoLflrHKbepY/s8v4PlLsYpnQNVNyyVRT+0q4jtKfD/RK12+uNB 6ry4unG1f9RJQ73AsbH91/E76nm135nx89RMkAa0u5n9MFj0YmpH6rNuu0X48ofN8sPz u6GsCSNcFBejkMmBAW0qj8xojXM+2pPAeQyClMOmiext6HnqnJ/ond0L/cBUfuQD3xfE Xta4Lm8OpE6gW2eOuXFCGcUZh7oeJvyAfygcjrF8U6r+HYSuYOeiGkYxTDsFmo8utPw1 EPrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5w8dQKpEdmTvegyAcfOD2tXPdlGaVPxAIlEtgombwWY=; b=oxL6dPYgDZpn1Hc71ZM6dTcHoQG58MLFUV9A90y6Yu6qDMBSoXpa+MXlkXCVqraTWC 1JzXIhEMidmyt898DkNY2n8gXJ063g3f+2Buvr2LMBmHRza4xfd/dUe5CpUYrNdHgzkj BV99irouhZBd0pe59cJezsjZfEYxJjizhnipWdhl0wLj/lMKKoEW3lC8h6VPTsbLWkzz GA3WlpFQpvS1wENY6V0A72rxPEt/nB/iP7q3QLKgXV/MhlajakVq+TSF/uGSkA3LXlLG 4BsAKlIH1B3C54F1jNbm/eg7eD/GpFJhZ/Hbm2SJVJ1ursaMRDYxSSigzHeSyTcNy1/z EsSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXT9Xy5a+xoJzPdQVjBWO/slKv3zo8rdKTggbk0bLrG68dAdxqA 8rPIBNW4j+Y+s8sKk0hjODgs74SfauK2sbVML+llxEqi X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzkf6a8XhYEgRCh+MPVA5Myq5oXGwmXOKA6Q0DyyHL4tkDUv7LbpLMPZF5kMC8OU3keWl1qTsuc/3nqsyx0HEE= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:ae88:: with SMTP id x130mr9133169vke.79.1568332247820; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <076701d56978$86020910$92061b30$@php.net> <078e01d5697c$5512bc10$ff383430$@php.net> <31BD63BC-ACE0-4478-B241-E698D2D6F59C@newclarity.net> <77CA024D-3141-4707-8280-81CA78282AFA@newclarity.net> <52703F2F-BBB5-410C-800E-B759797F531C@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <52703F2F-BBB5-410C-800E-B759797F531C@zend.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:50:36 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000856d62059263ceeb" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Changing fundamental language behaviors From: krakjoe@gmail.com (Joe Watkins) --000000000000856d62059263ceeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Zeev, > Without getting to the technicalities, simply put, no. I'm not sure what you intend to do to stop it. Once again, I remind you that you don't have the authority that your behaviour communicates you have, at all. I wasn't starting a conversation, I was communicating facts, and I'm finished communicating with you. Cheers Joe On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 01:45, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > On 13 Sep 2019, at 2:21, Joe Watkins wrote: > > Zeev, > > I'm going to keep this really short and simple ... > > > I'll do the same. > > You don't have the authority to make unilateral decisions for PHP,. > > > Neither does anybody else on this list. Not even a plurality or a > majority of folks on this list has the authority to apply the RFC process > to something it was clearly not designed to handle. > > Nothing you are saying is going to have any effect, the people who actually > work on the language will merge whatever is voted in. > > > Without getting to the technicalities, simply put, no. > > Zeev > > --000000000000856d62059263ceeb--