Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:107003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26275 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2019 20:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2019 20:49:27 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770CA2D1FB5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:25:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id o18so9031748ybp.5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:25:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2uqyKkwMzHDitJJ4zSC4MKv7mhJ0ol7POzMR6deCCbE=; b=H+KiY261xXboobUqLqIkw6ZVgHtOqH2BcVBbriIc70E0Vr+qBdeLnPyGsQiU1AyaUH /XMfzZUv3nBlZpN5GnwESYhqL89fASQhauEoA7oN837Oj8YgxW3dlKw/jl99bgRgr+Uz 7epBeT1T0zXWMvuiAzmSxAdyTmKFZGv+W77UU0xLGKKHSDI5auDQnRy9wc9+aJqNoPd0 UBVx7guGkICZ8FENYWJc7xrjP3pTobPOLA+1fwuVPO2ccPfGh4CY1lKpycz5VImc/QgU Uh3OCMsWPGAMkIO/QgUgjQQMK4lGSkQJsv+Lu2fkcy9wIhRYJ0FbkCmpHeMcCyuk2rpq HGuA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2uqyKkwMzHDitJJ4zSC4MKv7mhJ0ol7POzMR6deCCbE=; b=oyGai33GW82pdz6dBhgL5Kv/Kt1dZlSrnF4LaFoUGpkUd75xRUqC0SKyVjaurbrfvT 7o9aC6eQpJWIe4ImiCWp/bmI24xAbhRcAIaQa092jFkXLwOE/RvSLLKna/tyA7OoiGTd 61EuDpy3mNMpyc8MB+s3ZuBikQzppwSD9FZFrEyq3ACPa6Cl5PtRBcV9JuOmunhvQZBa BFS4gK7Mj2JvolLdJQKu9JIYs1hbmDoQP56QvNu9h1oHlby9tNxgA5CfF6O5tn0lORqR V5uL2bAaxuVCF0GoEnma01Q4NDA+CTgJ+mo9JH+OOuU3YUPvU/1/vNOqkB95ELxIUtUM rTAg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW6fybR2/vvLgXCXAVaT29gz5tlQtbT7KJMrnV82KCSlmDem1rJ XdO/m8u19WrbZjIEY96AiVhoSTbGaR2pj5Gwt+Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyXEMxvldk54fa4Pk9KnGzT6Ju//C9p7T9vVZ73HMiwKHagn4oNVRzQ21R97MGQ4UDaWZOKiFgV3idCLRQnDy0= X-Received: by 2002:a25:e08d:: with SMTP id x135mr2902611ybg.239.1568312723566; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:25:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <076701d56978$86020910$92061b30$@php.net> <078e01d5697c$5512bc10$ff383430$@php.net> <262D6749-66C3-4544-9FA0-32CDA6EC402A@koalephant.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:25:09 -0400 Message-ID: To: Chase Peeler Cc: Stephen Reay , Scott Arciszewski , Zeev Suraski , Marco Pivetta , PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c8f65b05925f4234" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Changing fundamental language behaviors From: matthewmatthew@gmail.com (Matthew Brown) --000000000000c8f65b05925f4234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm sure that some people wrote code like this, expecting it to always work in PHP: if ($some_condition) define("HELLO", 0); if (HELLO) { var_dump("got here"); } The equivalent, relying on buggy behaviour, PHP code looks like if ($some_condition) $hello = 1; if (!$hello) { var_dump("got here"); } If preventing undefined constants wasn't a fundamental change to the language, neither is preventing undefined variables. > --000000000000c8f65b05925f4234--