Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106970 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45768 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2019 17:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2019 17:26:57 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E482D19AD for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:02:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com (mail-ot1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id g25so25121659otl.0 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tnR0N6TzY56f4jGFcCtwSayucj7/iGAsjl/rVeX2qz0=; b=tOdHqq1o6Pz/OuwTovtEqk1CIZeCIvaarsEuzRuAvvY6gU8AmeXOI5MpWk7wZqUf5G QNcMOPUCTbY7ryORjg/rxGko+biuFm0bW3gzT87gf9EjEg9l8xIHbVJf2aWRIqPCsTHC X5by3OQJR5u/OGp/woMrYKNvdDdXiMlzAi5cHfUPTy5YZbowLOCBUh6czWJ/bbIfXhz1 CSsD8U8xeXose8CSIlE+sel8Des8coPY82T33ZE39O4731Me42zXF6TII73Ha/Tg+nOO j+M4y0DQcRw1xniDKOvR807Ik+5L2Eryb/k0pzphYuxDNQ3VRRHNoRERmjfqsc5l2ElN 6bNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tnR0N6TzY56f4jGFcCtwSayucj7/iGAsjl/rVeX2qz0=; b=ZmRAQLJmHz5K6CdP/ZjanxtQ3CJhtr7pHHmwSsE0VZWMdQuNkeWXJ889utuDtvIqLU gIiGIU8IwitInby1FOHKz6bnJeJmAlsaMXbDTrz+2X/99FrsqDFqmqmupt7W8JLRT+tQ 9OQU6ijBTkhrI2gXMvYeaCGHZZrTN+dhjeo2cmchCo0k/pF7uhYsb7KO0LcOMjsjTPJb 3Xvre9DAC3oo14eHG7qByX7vDAlY3kY/uwyPRGsxzyV5tzp4P5emypkhf3sJCC/FvXi3 A33gvdb7Tm7exKRqC6wUfxZhlFOiG3kPaFJYvAEIN2KTe+E5+Q+DAiQZTW/GpgoLcHI2 Wxrw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWTYAm5xm+OhI2wu+xa6GIIy/h7jMO3YSiRfhVitdQV213+8oDB h8VyKuRbTBQPkBx84Rmu9149iGf1cOcfO8egzQs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyQ1ecTFTwtX1PYHk1usfklN+1OW22RhaJN2EvvnmbLCDYu/42+2sTX00rZOkEALKcefGjnbsgtfBeVVRnEKkY= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3989:: with SMTP id y9mr28869959otb.113.1568300571247; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <076701d56978$86020910$92061b30$@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:02:37 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dan Ackroyd Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000734e7605925c6efb" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Changing fundamental language behaviors From: oludonsexy@gmail.com (Olumide Samson) --000000000000734e7605925c6efb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" You first me on that reply Dan, I guess I should just say "the naysayers are back", I can see their footprint all around. The RFC is Request for Comment on any changes, is there an explicit or implicit mention about what kind of proposed changes can be made? Mr/Mrs Zeev are you for PHP or against it? I know you are one of the authors of Zend Engine, but please follow the rules and don't make rules simply because something is going the way you don't want it to. That's why there's this called "vote". On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 3:52 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 15:44, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > The RFC process was never, ever meant to handle fundamental changes to > the > > language. > > The only appropriate response to this is "lolwat?". > > You keep making up rules...that don't exist. You can't expect people > to suddenly stop using RFCs to change the language just because you > say so. > > Please stop this behaviour. It's really not appropriate. > > sincerely > Dan > Ack > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000734e7605925c6efb--