Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106955 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17164 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2019 16:37:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2019 16:37:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5717F2D1FEA for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:13:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-oi1-x230.google.com (mail-oi1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x230.google.com with SMTP id 12so5996108oiq.1 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:13:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pG4GBnaR7O+n90AWVg36afczYtQn+/2FtXdce0TelnY=; b=LRFgxIWHOoDIdEBIZChGbJG6mzu3cws+D0jQrF7cZTV9HHsSm1FZLl6gvjnNgX3Pfl SIt/hXK8NVQJkqK1jmKTBENVTlBwaSX8jOciqylwhdgRL+VM74BCXuvnYyuVm0N/oePO AAxzawx62HT31GoZAIzgmtovpUk6iNs2QkEBrKcPX46h4CmlFRATvW10brJ3mJBQTKfp 7rmSPbpCHwuWxbZgsyzOtfJVsre/rh6iTEfZLpgw5W5MlIswIxQY5Zop0xb7+ApcAlpZ ren0hiGU9VyUvizWGDcWKiBNSSzoUDZ0Qc56LaNLP/mtTusCQ0vSl/KmRcd11lfzNyK/ 2RjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pG4GBnaR7O+n90AWVg36afczYtQn+/2FtXdce0TelnY=; b=AtCJTup5eT1EgfW6bEE/eSF6hFvPYcuGX2kh6opMdmMU+FVEIpQFvspLdTsOuP6Pyv Z4qSjVOBXjIGTrHbbg1ATaoYk3xdvc1fRRYYBizJGBxQORV9vdVX2R2Fg0wBjsS3e+SS TBavDzPHqJ7UWMNhGqd1uogpkrGYRF7Ed5cScgjwCpzA0EOiTs29xYcfJOBjmjMp0CX/ tyWOMJG8r87bC/PHfvUOM2O9nQGQMv4mYazNUahgs/J44vYs+LbZoTkQY2ONHu6t/whD QqAwG50PEiuJyzqNeCAplfTfVArzAu7thMFzWmIcaYYUPRUlx1c5f1RkCji/wbvt1E6k uIsg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUtgeABANhYss/z5q7ng7z3tDOyxYOcQqsNkpe9Q84MYOU8x4ob briTPfmSNAXnsD9oz8vXYeoHUTZpBnFreNOw/MczdQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx1nL5H2LPz4CXj0jPvT/ToNS2ne0s06dWamt2vZR6KuJ65Y1A9RATgRFEL1ZIfwkGbTi0ef8a+J+Kurgax3lo= X-Received: by 2002:aca:ed52:: with SMTP id l79mr193932oih.47.1568297586385; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:13:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:12:54 +0100 Message-ID: To: Chase Peeler Cc: Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000089e75e05925bbcbc" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Reclassifying engine warnings From: oludonsexy@gmail.com (Olumide Samson) --00000000000089e75e05925bbcbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 2:59 PM Chase Peeler wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:33 AM Olumide Samson > wrote: > >> Thanks to those who can vote, all in all I hope for a better language >> where >> we can proudly post jobs(even intern) for on our company's website without >> been looked down on as inferior. >> >> If you're so embarrassed by the language, then why not use something > else, instead of trying to force such massive changes on the entire user > base? > Anything considered through vote is opinion based, not the way you could call "force" and I think you can also ask those who are not embarrassed by the current language situation to stick to whatever is their current version. Upgrading can't be for everyone. Only those who like major features/changes of a new version upgrade. > > Also, if you really think this is going to change how non-PHP developers > view PHP, you're sorely mistaken. The few I've talked to about this, in > order to gauge how the languages they work in handle BC breaks, were > appalled that such a major breakage would be forced on users, even though > they personally don't like the fact that PHP supports uninitialized > variables. > I'm sure you are the one mistaken here, cos you don't speak for non-PHP developers likewise I don't. You can in all utmost speak for yourself like I did In my last email. > > Again, I implore everyone to stop trying and make everyone else like us. > Our language is awesome because of the fact that it is different and > flexible. That flexibility allows you to be strict if you want. If we just > want to turn PHP into another language that is like everything else out > there, then what's the point of even using PHP to begin with? > > I'm sure you are insulting the Project through those written words. If the project still want to be what it has always been, then there's no want or need for anything called @internals cos the language can actually still stick to PHP 3 and become what it has always been without any updates or changes. Like I said, since I can't vote I can only hope for the best. Since I can't vote, I can only hope for the best. >> >> <3 >> >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:17 PM Nikita Popov wrote: >> >> > Hi internals, >> > >> > I've opened the vote on //wiki.php.net/rfc/engine_warnings. >> > >> > There are 4 votes, all of them independent. The first 3 are for specific >> > cases that were controversial during the discussion, the last one is for >> > the remainder of the proposal. >> > >> > Voting closes 2019-09-26. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Nikita >> > >> > > > -- > Chase Peeler > chasepeeler@gmail.com > --00000000000089e75e05925bbcbc--