Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106894 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15757 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2019 11:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2019 11:54:39 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E112D209C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 02:29:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 02:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id u16so5840922wrr.0 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 02:28:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yfwiKJ0DIg7Ct2yNHLqspov0oXS3ltRe07Xvz5dLoLI=; b=vPJYzDyIniC55U7k3xnfm2YMiQD29+obsTG8X9LPx9vWJcoopgNCYO1kNXy90TKlQK yd0ZDaoEIEjOheeJODPQCrh+BW1VXpvoOpHfKVDDSNEmm970bJtdovypa0L2Xa+qeSgc P6RleorHnHQdQfuWALYtpG0uzaakldopv+DUvqKjsQ8/MufKGcfMaEGi872jqSqy1o1b t/9SQlxjSEY0tDqqXIbpeypSrLbrDJ5bmC/gQg4moSZ5PeuK7nVdC/hwbWZ9AKKl8t54 CKd1S/Vm6g3dsYFIVbLgoDyfkI3rYrFqAGFGrAXvA1cd1X4/rZJ9GIB9fE75zqfsWS9C EScw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yfwiKJ0DIg7Ct2yNHLqspov0oXS3ltRe07Xvz5dLoLI=; b=bDCUpRbaCKbklrcVj4bcJFq5YPX8FKSS6xcefUvt6bmljp6Cy1lyEqlgz4rHR2+F6n gUBWdawOwPsFQbF/4w3qoaqwGqDC/fDddmBrLUrGmEz5Kn3lQH1B8AOsn/6iHSsTfCIB 6509wYMcXnDrSwwATMm38lXy7Caw41IoNruOEtt/8/SGJjisOteAa32KTgUx6Pbe5mLH D04XxovKy0n3viNrhIZGXiw6pKFgTMZIjva1vb9oDqF3b7Cr57J2q/p9wPLldQf05toA RlgiYQ8Hb9x5tw4Ei8ZjHvPTEb6taqb7CB27dvFAfW90YCnoco6T2WmZBrqT+m3+weWU ju5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWnfaxRWUHq5OF6Yf4+AjSFvwHWjjM9PWj/HHd3O4U3EX+L+kZH yAMYICAQnxm/X0Kv7yflPo7+Xogb9GMVDbNYPPw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqymxpDT0BEK0RNBnueQwCj5RgF8AcJkjVA8dxDZ5GkOUH3EaeoJDi4GtnEguxZZjbnUxNkfTEmksXbcUsu08dA= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4f05:: with SMTP id c5mr6495188wru.349.1567762136075; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 02:28:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1686643.PblvKQRnJp@mcmic-probook> <190b7291-812e-4337-bd09-950dc30c655a@Spark> <2157489.0uZv62oTo4@mcmic-probook> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:28:43 +0700 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=B4me_Chilliet?= , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036937d0591df1101" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Union Types v2 (followup on github usage) From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --00000000000036937d0591df1101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 5:51 PM Joe Watkins wrote: > > Because the PHP project should avoid depending on a privately owned > centralized service for its technical discussions > > This is obviously your opinion, but you haven't actually told us why this > is the case, and it's not at all obvious. > > > should not encourage (some would say force) people to use such platforms. > > In any case it's not a choice for the contributor, internals chooses the > medium and the contributor has to use it. Whether we force them to use a > mailing list from last century or something from this century makes no > difference with regard to choice for the contributor. I am not worrying when one uses it for draft. However anything after that should happen in the wiki and on our git as it is the correct process. I really like github, or gitlab, however int he current context, almost all contributors may lose access to github (or other US based) companies based on the US government policies or directives. Without starting a political discussion whether or not this is valid, it is definitely a big risk. A risk I am not really willing to take for php itself, if I may say. best, --00000000000036937d0591df1101--