Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106888 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57269 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2019 07:59:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2019 07:59:28 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB212D1F98 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 22:33:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pl1-f181.google.com (mail-pl1-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 22:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-f181.google.com with SMTP id x3so2537755plr.12 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 22:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5f6+xDGCz2kHxG7iBgemWVrwJV2UBSD5lvYrPoe8f+4=; b=U/PaTg++o/lsBkAKQbI1Pv/6Bs/RuMJ6qFob3TVXEKyLzttrVjMdUbQMWJv/0uvZ5O ipNJnfc2iez9e2ULSxlMSaQhDKwtqistrk+YGHjp/sfmIZGIInDX3JsUNHWMSywlSdVr yKDT0hb5ZAYU99fQWzvag72jwJBGZMPYudAdN2phFzjzhAHi1fuohGkk+jrXLgTlNeKx Ja35vNRJjWYp01n5t+jc1Oscn4G9eUT8+sEcC06qfGmr9tOf18+NP8zRkLbFAYBy2ij2 1jzRb3OYYeQ4G3BLb+QhWCse6JWa6YHz/4G5KZVmXvGtoA9H1BLcM+cNQq+QL7CbnN0G X1Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWJauHub6MMjjdLTbTxjRe5ns3JjF8cA/hw/swqMeXqGfDV5yDJ FWznSV/5Xruwi3R3OWBztHn7jzxN3aimhfPymgJlEA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxDfygZqoFvQGbufYey6fHAoysflfwrmibLy6vW4SukffYHiKCX4x0F+r1TmPS7rdUj1DVh4N30L0bA9prRsIE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:4381:: with SMTP id j1mr7178616pld.318.1567748025632; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 22:33:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1686643.PblvKQRnJp@mcmic-probook> <190b7291-812e-4337-bd09-950dc30c655a@Spark> <2157489.0uZv62oTo4@mcmic-probook> In-Reply-To: <2157489.0uZv62oTo4@mcmic-probook> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:33:34 +0300 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=B4me_Chilliet?= Cc: Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Union Types v2 (followup on github usage) From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Den tor. 5. sep. 2019 kl. 13.22 skrev C=C3=B4me Chilliet : > Because the PHP project should avoid depending on a privately owned centr= alized service for its technical discussions, and should not encourage (som= e would say force) people to use such platforms. > > PHP is already on github but it=E2=80=99s only a mirror, the main git rep= ository is at git.php.net . As an old timer around here, I feel very strongly about moving the medium and I prefer to be on the PHP.net infrastructure. Clearly one of our biggest issues with that as the PHP organization is that we poorly maintain it, and I think it could be time to rather invest into renewing that effort instead. It seems like many have an issue with subscribing to internals (I know it was broken for the longest time by using the webform), but that is something we can telegraph better on the php.net website for one thing and try to put resources into figuring this problem out to gain momentum for more developers to join the effort of internals development. Using Github for PRs and relevant discussions for that is perfectly fine with me, but switching to Github for RFCs is a big -1 from me, it is really difficult to read new comments if you are not email subscribed and even then it still remains hard to follow. The individual moderation required to also sort out irrelevant comments is also one thing I personally would not want to deal with either. --=20 regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net