Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106876 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60089 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2019 14:33:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2019 14:33:34 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539A62C20C2 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 05:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3215 2.6.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com (mail-pg1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 05:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id d1so1332857pgp.4 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 05:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sNcSfJjJm9vJovX6/CLDoMxkEERJpx3G/kBKHBO88tg=; b=laca6vt3xODk6qcNiRlXFlIWVEVfxmx7Bj9uYP5vdxPZPBkBrdAZBEwGydOc4DzP9s tJWaa79CLs2eeVucXbPRpwaduKS0Q9Ngm6VT4EK4EB+HpMob6E1So5UJH+LIPDoX8VTK OEmrXG78AuQn2RNTBQ63/FxEZrNRVU8lVRdUw/r2Ip+4EoSbCVtvqZtv0cJuFqc3U4qx OmyavAkAczbMKC2uR+D9tTJl2ZhUle5md59toZyG4jD9itl4TYY1uB7spu2qWAN532Gq jjUcXk+9HPxieeAxWFCFCzK0Y1cRDnVzX4D22xMndxz1DgxJjqsOt1D1o56/clnj7OPv erbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sNcSfJjJm9vJovX6/CLDoMxkEERJpx3G/kBKHBO88tg=; b=FKd/TDUJ8ecpGft5LImkUOIgGuf+EAlrS+KA1Z0hgU6pfa2iECXqC1QNHSelrdvWeY aS83BAgkjdx27PSBUV7dCTvdl2A0M4ZpMG5tQrV8/VfDoXlk27TSEEz49vEOR6nHSHoz uoJZjRtokzrMNtiYyFo7YFw3msjiMcjx3RJzAVPBNOicY3PW2pN6yqYR3YQKP1EpX7Vq HOfmx/enDLL9RWFT34YrYOK0eafnSBihhsod2PodtQhDMs8jdMj4HnxFEl6i6jjZ1Apj x+uyypPGo7zTcsZOG+KFB4rJTT+6tnZuMVFVS9cp8+6b2MNqWjS64xOnkjbcjMyFrojS c7uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVEmnpQ96evmQaFx2SRhhYg45Jx8LTTY0VaN9eVhq715L/GRGGF nazbs+wi6mvBFprTvRCIdeshvxwBAtS3J7+1x1A8+mJTh64= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzcPp7whgesbs0QcOabGyVGG1KtISzJQD4mDy+LhXC6PjHV2NImmKeN8Peo6dHDnc86CR7kWpCeQNA9VKDYdcg= X-Received: by 2002:a65:4507:: with SMTP id n7mr2736484pgq.86.1567685259616; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 05:07:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2157489.0uZv62oTo4@mcmic-probook> <3425415.rOq7SuEVWJ@mcmic-probook> In-Reply-To: <3425415.rOq7SuEVWJ@mcmic-probook> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:07:28 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=B4me_Chilliet?= Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Union Types v2 (followup on github usage) From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 12:27, C=C3=B4me Chilliet wrote: > > PHP have no control over github, and cannot know how it will evolve. > > (they can change the platform tomorrow and internal won=E2=80=99t be abl= e to do anything about it). > Those are hypothetically problems. But they do not appear to be currently problems. I'm pretty sure that if new problems with a medium were encountered, we could adapt to either work around them or move to a different system. And in case anyone says "some people might not be able to comment on Github" the same is true for our email lists. The signup process was apparently broken for ages, and I've seen multiple people ask for how to persuade the system to accept their messages. Which probably means there are more people who never contributed because they couldn't get past that first barrier. Actual problems I can see with having the discussion on github: i) There is no off-topic space. For example, apparently some people don't understand the RFC and could do with a brief explainer on type systems. Doing that inline to the github comments would make the on-topic discussion harder to read. ii) It means that the discussion is harder to track. However.....that is already a problem. When I was putting together the info for https://github.com/danack/RfcCodex which attempts to document why certain ideas that keep coming up haven't succeeded yet, it was a massive pain trying to track email threads to the RFC. Both of those things are not really technical problems. They are documentation problems. They would be best solved (imo) by having a paid member of staff on the PHP project writing lots of words. cheers Dan Ack