Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106874 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50422 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2019 13:53:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp3.php.net) (208.43.231.12) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2019 13:53:19 -0000 Received: from php-smtp3.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF1D2C6C38 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 04:27:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp3.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,SPF_HELO_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS12876 195.154.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No Received: from smtp.opensides.be (smtp.opensides.be [195.154.20.141]) by php-smtp3.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 04:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.opensides.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093B9FB11A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:27:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at opensides.be Received: from smtp.opensides.be ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.opensides.be [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HEZCjoLUEzsQ for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:27:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mcmic-probook.opensides.be (63.120.199.77.rev.sfr.net [77.199.120.63]) by smtp.opensides.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7421FB117 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:27:13 +0200 (CEST) To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:27:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3425415.rOq7SuEVWJ@mcmic-probook> Organization: OpenSides User-Agent: KMail/5.2.3 (Linux/4.9.0-9-amd64; KDE/5.28.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2157489.0uZv62oTo4@mcmic-probook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Envelope-From: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Union Types v2 (followup on github usage) From: come@opensides.be (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=F4me?= Chilliet) Le jeudi 5 septembre 2019, 12:50:48 CEST Joe Watkins a =C3=A9crit : > > Because the PHP project should avoid depending on a privately owned cen= tralized service for its technical discussions >=20 > This is obviously your opinion, but you haven't actually told us why this > is the case, and it's not at all obvious. I thought it was obvious, sorry. So, the problem is PHP have no control over github, and cannot know how it = will evolve. GAFAM organizations have closed people accounts before, sometimes without g= iving reasons. I think PHP project should not let other organisations choose who can or ca= nnot participate in PHP development. > > should not encourage (some would say force) people to use such platform= s. >=20 > In any case it's not a choice for the contributor, internals chooses the > medium and the contributor has to use it. Whether we force them to use a > mailing list from last century or something from this century makes no > difference with regard to choice for the contributor. With a mailing list the contributor can choose its email server and email c= lient. He does not have to agree to term of service of a third party. https://tosdr.org/#github With github, internal chooses to delegate to github, and github (currently = microsoft) chooses who can take part in the discussion and how the discussi= on works. (they can change the platform tomorrow and internal won=E2=80=99t= be able to do anything about it). C=C3=B4me