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Nice to meet you. And there are more of us. You learn something new every day! >> I knew it worked, but I always considered this to basically be >> the PHP equivalent of undefined behavior in C. And I don't think anyone It's not. It's very well defined behavior, that is not going to break - unless it is broken intentionally in a zeal for adding more strictness for the sake of strictness. So, another thing to learn. I love learning new things, and love helping others do so! -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com