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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> Don't build your business on a foundation of eggshells and then complain
> when something comes along that makes those eggshells crumble.

I think PHP has historically been much less "bondage and discipline"
language, strictly enforcing a particular programming paradigm, than
others (e.g. Java). I consider it a good thing. Scratch that, I consider
it an excellent thing, responsible for the significant part of why PHP
became so popular. I understand that some people like PHP to be much
more B&D and enforce strictly whatever they consider (often entirely
justified) the right way to do things. I don't think it's a place of a
generic language to do that. We have IDEs, we have analyzers, we have
other tools that allow to enforce things. For example, I don't think I
 had a "variable name typo" error in live code for years - because IDEs
and tests catch those early. Do I need language to help me with that?
Not really, I'm covered already. Do I want the language become more
rigid and my quick-n-dirty PHP code snippets that I write almost every
day become harder to write because I need to jump over the hoops that
eventually will help "foundation of my business" built on that screen
scraping script I've whipped up on a lunch break? Not at the least.

Now, I recognize it's a valid position to want more strictness,
especially if most of the code you deal with is "foundation of your
business" type. I would just like to remind it's not the only position
and that there's good in PHP being not as strict as, say, Java (I am not
saying this proposal would make it that, but it's certainly looks like a
step in that direction).

-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com