Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106762 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60182 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2019 21:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f52.google.com) (209.85.221.52) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2019 21:09:17 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id c3so817347wrd.7 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:41:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:cc:from:message-id; bh=TxnfhnZ8SPfwYCENQ5PjLZAr6Ge5YJ1pqyRHW2G3Hxc=; b=Gt9dRydZHgJwqzNgzlArwOyD4ZvZyLCpHbgLEUzG9PQUWEYip/fOBOmhA+sHIG83RA ZBhp5xUFXHqt30kV0uVhtK9gCpTl+03I1HXQMtffm6im550/cI0RDnkIagSMH9/AoB5O 7Gas7LhbNlB3Jnwm0fOy7mo2pdOmrmTSXh02OZVNKCDzl323T1AeqmoeYsrlGEnJNbkk k352AbyqdUb1zYUztTffTv79kAVoC8ir+oW8F4dL2XLHagb8zdODxgCixH8/myDQ7GQ4 /3R97Wyql3V3pXthyjdecxtcSUtqnyL6L0ZxM1uz4HMXy4G2LMkvM5B4GA2I1Wjaqa+R krnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:cc:from:message-id; bh=TxnfhnZ8SPfwYCENQ5PjLZAr6Ge5YJ1pqyRHW2G3Hxc=; b=q61g0HleoxaKkSHrfOyWElbSTkkX9dOVTe4aFJ5gZ++m+vi0LGoHRz7BA2nw4WZv8d 6xkhqsMbxAI6mI71tIF6VzQqeq9V/T3B2BlNmJn09eCAEa+JWcbqpnHnHKGkITE3J6// KuJGOg+FNGqCS08bHmYGA9ITG0MVdYfjITeFLdeKp+IVI2taN2BAVre89Kls+Q6FYfO7 VgAIv2GbyLD8sT13YDkA1zBcw3BIRtcGvbxOGJ1VjPsMQslsXwqAU9UWTHC34itEzE/E Z0hOnvlGWMJUMrPra++EkbVmqUNMwlsIl+ycEyOrfoVLh7S71OAeW8kbuq+YkyXnSZxg NjPg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUEH7vfa+KrlKF9fHTFTlnWXhykXjhZxUOVSiOjywdkIfGclhCJ ouzgF2vr8qa1s8eaywHkVCthxHpF X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwBFoT9qI6QvJWDs4+RtXNkh/21EqBxGc/tuAuRYL2EEl0vLxgpFIx8qJpWsynpj8NRYcpAwg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:cd8e:: with SMTP id q14mr4093375wrj.187.1567017689047; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpc84253-brig22-2-0-cust114.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.108.141.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k6sm8965305wrg.0.2019.08.28.11.41.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:41:24 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <203FFB9C-BB5A-43C7-B51B-036ECBC5557A@gmail.com> <31F46BA6-365E-46F9-8193-CBCEA8D9B6F6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CC: PHP Internals List Message-ID: <079AC7F8-9CFC-48A8-AE51-3051DD497217@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 28 August 2019 18:45:18 BST, Matthew Brown = wrote: >Kicking a house is a poor analogy IMO - most people don=E2=80=99t upgrade= a >major >language version without first verifying that their code still works in >the >new version=2E Probably=2E Most analogies fall down pretty quickly=2E I just feel like so= me of the messages on this thread about technical debt are taking great gle= e in kicking other people's code, rather than offering to help fix it=2E Let's talk about how to make this change successful=2E Let's talk about wh= at tools there are, and what their strengths and limitations are=2E Let's t= alk about making people's lives easier now, not punishing them for past mis= takes=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]