Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106740 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6630 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2019 18:00:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-yw1-f47.google.com) (209.85.161.47) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2019 18:00:34 -0000 Received: by mail-yw1-f47.google.com with SMTP id e65so49621ywh.0 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:32:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=10noj7hF97HjgqE06FFqqgDtm+hfRTV4vdJDAM+MEKY=; b=nN7QuEl1IT83+L6g/Vm4IBavGKXIePDNTx1l3wYlxB1AJcRsbZRq+hmymaV4uwa9qR Ocd0x7iZxFyIBQuQ7N8zvqE0VWxG9CZPfnQDND/T2ZqskgFrlPfRZjj0ohnO8UO9zl/Q jY2C+VxH/Zxf38gIQ5514MatyYKxOtYEe96q+Fp6Ffy80Uaye9t4EFsJB+d68xRORz6j DmSIyb2nHiQV9LCNa4lRE6EPNIsndOblzzShYyjNHJku2NOT5D5Sj3GerZ3jXNW50zX4 hCL/LRvSv2KwQ45vJNBRF3cYHKqbYecsl4q4NuLNl/gXTfNSNeTa2kL84aUoYC0QvMC0 W27g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=10noj7hF97HjgqE06FFqqgDtm+hfRTV4vdJDAM+MEKY=; b=e0awwWqiyUGB4mLhCpjgfBjFHuRDhP1UETMWA9QKF5MsAI0sBvpxbaVZ8t7MBddyHe lWBtScU9M4JqGXoz1buqUHkqVa/OuvLmlVV9BrQkt46RJ3dy1EzglKPkHcxADlx2NhH1 s8rEp7kJWsh6aSVReSlWDuAJihlS3MvPDqjXdVhZ2uCHtbTY3AoWHHJH3UJaJJRVJlxB LksfWcz1aVv+h5PFxKBrR907lMeGu53juN4vOteQmd3sJzKB+09bl08iVfMql0R5CPzV bSMHgan+nBABHW52P8j0k6hLj05Op0tqUD/IdnOmyK30UbuJp0iVCw7EyLpkN01Qo5as O8PA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXKIq1/t1nlem0SWE2qk2pASUCtirEnWnQ026JB0MJKkQvCi7JW Mk0vprvF+XuzxJrxoWHwTMLA6QLmMBdNk/C/BNo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwJlV2vShcUKxftEAuaRAcGIm9D43VcHVC4N+iCYJvTl1xfOnfXj2jU86QCNEm4Hj6vdntXR6lR9N4ROzLKuto= X-Received: by 2002:a81:2d83:: with SMTP id t125mr3540453ywt.421.1567006365082; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:32:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c0672b05912f19e8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings From: matthewmatthew@gmail.com (Matthew Brown) --000000000000c0672b05912f19e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It's essentially tech debt, and the language has allowed its users to accrue a ton of it. The longer that's allowed (deprecations/warnings prolong the issue in my opinion) the harder it will be to fix the issues. On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 10:56, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 28 August 2019 15:22:22 BST, Matthew Brown > wrote: > >Looking at our notice logs, I estimate (fairly roughly) that it would > >require about a week's worth of my time to fix these issues > > I honestly thought you were posting that as an argument against. A week of > resource (plus the accompanying QA impact etc) is a significant investment > for many organisations. That's why it has the potential to delay adoption > of a new version, and why a long lead-in via deprecation or opt-in is > necessary. > > Regards, > > -- > Rowan Collins > [IMSoP] > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000c0672b05912f19e8--