Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106733
Return-Path: <ocramius@gmail.com>
Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net
Received: (qmail 90150 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2019 17:07:28 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mail-io1-f41.google.com) (209.85.166.41)
  by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2019 17:07:28 -0000
Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id x4so6211726iog.13
        for <internals@lists.php.net>; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20161025;
        h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to
         :cc;
        bh=NKddGCQUPo+DpOzPS7I6nxG0bPVhlqPnoRz5YyuxBaE=;
        b=s1L0I1Dq8zWA5Kq3kIEzbtvCQql3N2/UDa1dwV9fAF9K3/crhgq4svjP+PRFPqRo0U
         giP36jskGJY4ZMQIeZhJdCp8kgiZzQzsEafumDEQXJA8oqDXlKopAf8MMZJoNawqX0wF
         0CpwHeYVoCP5YtaHZnVbWAUu/7Nc7fnePMmMyx4eunTQfzEUMCJqxQuEesgZqkPLhRF4
         lbSHfih9sy5dtonOsI1Ze413nFRipJ8ptV9TD1/WDNrRwPsRkNhVpn1zSdJYAHDZKp8H
         vTBzc/H2Qt39r3ap3dsG/b6q8gs9VZdEp6PNwkxS9+ot7YDMqZC2cdL4DU+ckJUA9nUb
         M1cA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20161025;
        h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date
         :message-id:subject:to:cc;
        bh=NKddGCQUPo+DpOzPS7I6nxG0bPVhlqPnoRz5YyuxBaE=;
        b=gtlR/vRWTHtT51r0dTCivCPIO3K/fPav2A63Fk3zLt+8vkm2JlwFyB/EZqOJ6HP4UJ
         eqIfNrdHyI3D8d8DOG78TiKLNUF9PiQB41FGlyt5byuT6y4fevCTrUbgivtosIzcAYXG
         +An3nRPzGH8OHLFHjS1S25HaCNwOaTSDrwby723L5LXv4RhUeAswtSvMv/+2NmaQqt6P
         vOcZpl0ZG8fc336auiuVUMDfDEYiuTWxn21yYrv6dWPeH6Q+31VpAG9eElZwBXncO+6e
         5J4R+Dw5i4RF+S+eABIrmw10PtFRkVPk4SK+fht49WFZ6WQw0v07Du3/yXL6ioOcXKVn
         fRQw==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXoDciahQ3PadWFrhFqheXWzASj1a/rUS43VcF/+LSeSTP/wVXt
	KRGF4Qy6Ur4/SNS+lG/kJtD/s3VYrDYr3bOjsJY=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwhaIfjnoQQjJu7LeXF8ERva29n2HTosTT2SxlMa1V6etPGvZ4+Wk/6jbmbJ6JcxEhwO3PqEJ2VyM/eyC4xo/g=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2195:: with SMTP id b21mr4927545iob.205.1567003177759;
 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CAF+90c9Kc6m_bv=aJxbD3-RmnNXXLqv6mPjHp7U7qxX_ck27qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJHtznyadHb5_RgjddnPiyeWXtLQyp2CDK=ix=BiEd+DEUHqLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAF+90c_94zAj-7XW+=YtZ2VsZEshd4DvNY8_17PyiBXvYR1gdw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJHtznw5wOTMA-BUO6hOARxSie75+PwccSocVapHi4k02Z+x0A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPKYkKzc37d52ZjHy0ht6Oc_HgoBq4+DandNW1Hk-+x5NnUS7Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPKYkKwhUmq40yGta3+ERfcDOOrkPi5Db6-i7pPMRmV4CrQRTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <7ddbae5c-7451-4094-8b32-19676128054b@thelounge.net> <CAPKYkKyYvqW9Hm-nae0CXJ98XxRzt7XRpe_+FzeqiJME3K4jug@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPKYkKw5vxgeM+vq_z9YhNYEMuPodCjfGNv6BRFS+bg0BG-Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOkcCt_xsP1AOwB0-nuY4_qwxSc3h8mns_Yax9UnrLzFCN-m+g@mail.gmail.com> <CAPKYkKxAkowF_H9gDZg2pDVdUyftJz0b2LAE08jW8jjA6Nq-uw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAPKYkKxAkowF_H9gDZg2pDVdUyftJz0b2LAE08jW8jjA6Nq-uw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:39:26 +0200
Message-ID: <CADyq6sJd6=2UEXXrad2heYw4Mp876rSQ9ZcKeuXOKEWO8F2saA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Chase Peeler <chasepeeler@gmail.com>
Cc: Gert <gertp93@gmail.com>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c5b9ae05912e5b64"
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings
From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)

--000000000000c5b9ae05912e5b64
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:27 PM Chase Peeler <chasepeeler@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:20 AM Gert <gertp93@gmail.com> wrote:
> Notices include a lot more than just undeclared variables. Turning them on
> in our environment would pretty much make the logs unusable for any on the
> spot checking for issues. They would only be useful if we were trying to
> parse out specific errors, and, they would be HUGE. Each web server
> generates about 5-10 megs of logs in a day. Our CLI servers (which runs
> beanstalkd jobs) generates about 80-100 megs of logs in a day. That's
> without notices turned on.


I worked with clients with much more log overhead happening: the solution
is working to fix these issues, and not ignoring more of them.

Marco Pivetta

http://twitter.com/Ocramius

http://ocramius.github.com/

--000000000000c5b9ae05912e5b64--