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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 23:43:32 +0200
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To: Rowan Tommins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again
From: peterkokot@gmail.com (Peter Kokot)

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 23:37, Rowan Tommins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 20/08/2019 22:18, Peter Kokot wrote:
> >> The approach was: add the deprecation notice in PHP 8, and remove short open tags in PHP 9 or PHP 10 (purposely left vague to get more support for the idea - as getting the deprecation underway is the most important move).
> >>
> > I guess we should really highlight also
> > such option and discuss this more rationally back then. Now, we have
> > postponed this until who knows when and also without any clear
> > guideline for what will happen with short tags if they will be ever
> > removed or not...
>
>
> I honestly don't think it would make any difference to most people who
> voted against. The counter-arguments people have presented, again and
> again, are not about the pace of removal, but about whether removal is
> needed at all. If anyone wants to revive this proposal in future, it is
> that counter-argument that they would need to understand and address.
>
> Regards,

I think so too, yes. We will have the same discussion... I'll leave it
be. I just have my own opinion about them. Facts are facts (what
software does and allows to do) and what documentation and code
comments say (something completely different). What is programmer
advised to do is not the same as what can programmer do with the
language. That's all.

-- 
Peter Kokot