Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106668 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93859 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2019 19:09:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-wr1-f42.google.com) (209.85.221.42) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2019 19:09:29 -0000 Received: by mail-wr1-f42.google.com with SMTP id c3so13092730wrd.7 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=6s1SaRZM14ZMpdfMM3ZrD0JkrMoXEn2DbmFRysg5Avk=; b=sPW6yTPKOYZe5M5wSwNib8boNG565LodK35MIcMQY4Cywsgs3+aDc34JPCTn6zMR7o 7NEH+k4vgQ6Artz2W2EbSn3SiAHN15Q7Ndp/kQm8fkiA7Jhb32uIjfX5ytPeHdqYFMOs hzUWRTXdK8tEkvm5Jotv39hjyShXjBail97n6nVY+8pNUav4InRsQOBuvQSs5eaqnIbH ivJ1CAqmB+bvwhNeav3gZXJR9I38pJyLy2VngAERLHnbAsa1/iA38uWQlLJs2jlpTI7L v2KGzphTdHbQ7dCeJmpCu6gF5dAv9vjFT9vYuSEesDpw+t1Yf9vKG0nqWLs9LhAFppS6 +WSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=6s1SaRZM14ZMpdfMM3ZrD0JkrMoXEn2DbmFRysg5Avk=; b=nqBGdljHW5MgTS2hjAuioS2EPzvmCdVraVJ1nXlonCbUdSi5M44XLMPyy1V6fmEaz+ RUaJ1wNyZY1rTcCgDSv3jk5sj/z33x5sDao9UdY6zhlJ0WR8eGAC9mK+O9Il9fr0XMBV 5IgBVPfoM/Z3nTG7HMfi/QLI8A8I1hFPeZ1ue28ktLwZ67zekUCUAVtc+lcZv+MkTdS/ eIgYi8yY3g2JuTXzuZC26TOgG+yl/82LeS6H/SqwEttkBTFLyHTDiE1nIIqk3icy8AuN dHwe5nN0Dh67G9ZVAr5AKYuvOcOO3n/eltWok0VQ3ta86+Vl9EImZpPlvmPlhhXpUnpn aTGg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW60UvwKXeoQwer/YJUF0d0g+PwZqui+tQe3g5V9+To0isMFMHO UFDhbsRsxD04GdPvb9ngASKOlpCu X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxFtEpQvrUSQ+OMP9nlmcgdjqcb+9Y1Ik18IuF5Ymj7Fi2wgO9wmpp1NINOdZX1GXgLqp4u/A== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:54c7:: with SMTP id x7mr35484968wrv.39.1566319180166; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (cpc84253-brig22-2-0-cust114.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.108.141.115]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c201sm1015577wmd.33.2019.08.20.09.39.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <000001d54e5a$02ac09f0$08041dd0$@roze.lv> <2b5588d6-d667-321f-22f1-46a22bb797c5@korulczyk.pl> <000001d54ea3$eb3480a0$c19d81e0$@roze.lv> <000301d54ead$b43e7b00$1cbb7100$@roze.lv> <59378662-77ca-0779-10cb-c25acf1b45ef@korulczyk.pl> Message-ID: <0c52dfe9-0192-c643-12b8-8038ccf98910@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 17:39:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 20/08/2019 17:18, Peter Kokot wrote: > About the docs - there are > very minor changes needed where "backwards compatibility" is mentioned > maybe. Because they are not in PHP for keeping BC anymore now. Nobody > proposed a better solution than this RFC, then they are a feature. Being "for Backwards Compatibility" and being "there forever" are not mutually exclusive. There are a huge number of things in this world which exist only to be compatible with an older technology or use case, but which will never be phased out, because the effort to change them exceeds the benefit. On the other hand, I think it might be useful to have a status of "officially discouraged" distinct from "deprecated". I occasionally hear people ask to "deprecate" something without any particular timeline or criteria for when it would be removed; my suspicion is that what they really want is a clearer message to users that they shouldn't use the feature. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins (né Collins) [IMSoP]