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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 17:50:01 +0200
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To: "G. P. B." <george.banyard@gmail.com>
Cc: PHP internals list <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again
From: peterkokot@gmail.com (Peter Kokot)

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 14:51, G. P. B. <george.banyard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello internals,
>
> This RFC has been declined with 56% in favour (30/54) and 44% against
> (24/54).
>
> Two side notes to this:
>
>   - I seriously don't appreciate that the RFC has been edited *WITHOUT* my
> knowledge to add endorsement names on the counterargument to the RFC on the
> RFC itself  when the appropriate place would have been the counter argument
> document.
>   - As it has no clear supra majority (nor against nor in favour), this
> topic should probably be put to discussion again in some way or form at a
> later stage.
>
> Best regards
>
> George P. Banyard

The number of things that got wrong in these two RFCs is
extraordinary. If anything the community, the internals and everyone
involved got through a good thinking process so we have learned
something from this in any way. I appreciate all your time and effort
to move this thing forward and even for being so respectful towards
Zeev, Rasmus, Dmitry, and Sara who have endorsed keeping them in the
PHP and to repeat the voting with a better solution in this RFC.

I think that now we need to fix the documentations out there. short
tags will stay in PHP for at least another 10+ years, so maybe we
should simply consider them not a part of legacy but a special kind of
a feature. There are some parts in PHP comments and docs that needs
this fixed and sorted out better a bit (probably - specially in the
ini files itself etc).

-- 
Peter Kokot