Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106624 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76866 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2019 19:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tbjjbihbhebb.turbo-smtp.net) (199.187.174.11) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2019 19:55:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=php.net; s=turbo-smtp; x=1566494654; h=DomainKey-Signature:Received: Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date: Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=kPcUhS2atvg8WIWwr5JLpP7Zs rGZncFbEx5Dk9Q2O7o=; b=eZ52c6z+weLq7JOr5q2tlMgNOaGoTLyDWKk1A4ayq l1xX93wg7gxqVVNivrXcwYLzHMbFf92rzkpsv8ERSU980MFs9bUuaN79isSu6CTq NjlTfuyzgCsWadiuAVcKrqsf3KZVwGfdNfqZ2Vs7Rq45UUpXrt8pZpKUEsISpxzk Go= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=turbo-smtp; d=php.net; h=Received:Received:X-TurboSMTP-Tracking:X-Gm-Message-State:X-Google-Smtp-Source:X-Received:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id:Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; b=RajYkBGqX+mpsrMS2GcIT6xlcOapgTjD8B2ZeBSU5GW40y3zetkiGRBfbr6cnH QnPQ1rfTLmQ9eLblNgmMZApaqn762Z59wLVioY28B6rE1TXV0AVnJnBUXFO9dDrO qQkWGlHGYix9/fkHaBuD0QRrJX5rpqpTvJQGUxy8duzlA=; Received: (qmail 19164 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2019 17:24:14 -0000 Received: X-TurboSMTP-Tracking: 5222628658 X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWrrw8iO4QkzqNANgKw+bBiosX3fFw+Nrmnhk2as0Iz94yMlmIt PcfgWlNiOSmHjpOvdxd9+6nTU0thw/0Q4cC/qqE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxQL2lMoqM2gFStFkyIBjeeSeY43AJpCrx0QwgiEkzQKG6HWPMX6Z30h12XTiYyJoG6HDhq9pxOC5gSp5HtD9E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:1c5:: with SMTP id c5mr3945397qvt.97.1565889853448; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:23:07 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-Id: Message-ID: To: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000078e67005902b24d9" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote: Straw poll for P++ feasibility From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski) --00000000000078e67005902b24d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did not intent to write anything else in this thread, but since someone reverted the edits I made to fix the description of the P++ idea in the poll, I have to. One of the many ways in which this poll was problematic is that it substantially misrepresents the idea - while claiming that this is in fact what is being discussed/proposed. I edited the description to reflect what the idea actually is - and given that it=E2=80=99s my idea, I=E2=80=99m in the best position to do that (som= e of these misconceptions were even explicitly handled in the FAQ). Other than fixing the errors in presenting it (and still doing so very surgically) - I corrected two factual errors (type safety in languages is roughly as modern as VCRs - i.e. not really, and this isn=E2=80=99t an RFC - but an informal = vote). I also added a time qualifier at the end - =E2=80=9Cat this time=E2=80=9D, = which is the only non-factual edit I made, and that I don=E2=80=99t mind dropping anyway= as this poll has no formal standing (and don=E2=80=99t worry, I have no intention t= o continue discussing it anytime soon regardless). You can see the edited version that was reverted here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/p-plus-plus?rev=3D1565816351 I purposely took the time to do it in a =E2=80=9Ctrack changes=E2=80=9D kin= d of way, so that people can see both the original version and the corrected version. To be clear - I=E2=80=99m not asking for a revote or anything of the sort. = I really want to put this poll behind us all (I=E2=80=99m sure we all do), bu= t can=E2=80=99t live with this grossly misrepresented version of my own idea being somehow validated as authentic by being on a vote - as non binding and informal as this vote is. Thanks, Zeev --00000000000078e67005902b24d9--