Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106563 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71685 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2019 05:32:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 28.ip-149-56-142.net) (149.56.142.28) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2019 05:32:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: thruska@cubiclesoft.com) with ESMTPSA id 3AC943E898 To: Benjamin Eberlei , Andi Gutmans Cc: Zeev Suraski , Internals References: Message-ID: <39d20061-9c0f-031f-1c44-260bf39a7755@cubiclesoft.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:00:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] P++: FAQ From: thruska@cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) On 8/12/2019 2:06 AM, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > What would be the plan to boost or change the reputation? How are you going > to find P++ in Google? How are users searching for things with PHP and P++? > What's the documentation going to look like for two languages that share so > much? Specifically from a marketing POV splitting up the language into two > makes no sense at all. Given PHP has no unified marketing message or a > dedicated department it is much better to use the existing brand, with all > its positive and negative perception and just keep rolling with it. > > A strategy to change the security or any other perception of PHP is solely > a marketing, teaching and persistence issue. As you say the language is > already the fastest dynamic language with the best runtime. But "starting > over" with 0 brand name and perception is much harder problem than changing > the existing brand, and its not at all technical challenge. Well it looks like Reddit has already started a reputation for P++: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cor8lv/p_a_strongtyped_php/ The discussion's about as mature as you'd expect the average Reddit thread to be. As a bonus, that link showed up near the top of Google Search results for me. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President I've got great, time saving software that you will find useful. http://cubiclesoft.com/ And once you find my software useful: http://cubiclesoft.com/donate/