Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106550 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95592 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2019 10:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ot1-f46.google.com) (209.85.210.46) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2019 10:55:37 -0000 Received: by mail-ot1-f46.google.com with SMTP id r20so6060901ota.5 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:23:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wVmyPypYKH8okQmyY5fkSbDmZQJDvki0rgMB643tmsc=; b=UPbfB3CGWJTETXy8rHkeOJdv8ZzoB37QUHAZ58Y35bjq3WzFiWJXeeYu9SyDtbLUqB BOxkKFB3qeaduiAUubRYOP4IlL9NPXlDsZXYcglKuQb3x9xCDarg7INWyOaTXg7fOOkY 3/urSx5QC3baqpdAWRgFyiOrVafWAexisElFFByMob0TylHpOzIRnujomtdDOZleYpbi 4IevrzE+k0zvRIEH/xwnVyDS+lTksfkbbMU4YlSGD/M+rFe0lU/jY2s8Hzj2h7vwxWd/ qlTimyxPGOVbSre40mYKvg3J4HbMlQQOePgDaWC+kijz8NDAZFBhbKnOQQa3p9g4Dm5U P1fQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wVmyPypYKH8okQmyY5fkSbDmZQJDvki0rgMB643tmsc=; b=RVdtLCmMKVn4q+8yrCe0xizK4HYfPE05bSJmX+vGYta/K2cNYcyrRAfQgky8/dzQlW 1qiZ9mJvoUCmmIfk5/iZpJ6Bqk4wxADd97E5FHGep70VyIro8NAQm7cJyMSnIKBqHGg4 kgVBk31Y3E9vaa5a03MTJKlvYffOvZVtkBj7pmlIiygNT97LYR/xyOK6e4YJAyl4wFlx rej1igixkvGBWCm22tXmvHBF2L4DLb/CA81z06/Yf0wUugeQBNdQqSG2md3oy75o9yjG 41tTYLN1656YGB/7T0gfJZ21tVkjuqznxIKpRcs+cZ8sLhwvWP9YYoUy3sIur8X1OfbJ ZaAA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW5LSrEwW6DesnGSWZgIVXQwQEVV3ULL+/JJaa5111t38w3nBAS VkSjWTcr4OhOSHLcTz2il7NIDtqc X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx8dwWbmoAPJJQcmzfB/zTYLpN6Lf3rddl1l1PE/fuMmG/Tv1O5PU/cG/1MdSinvPkLDXFT3A== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6742:: with SMTP id w2mr29923954otm.371.1565598223172; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-f54.google.com (mail-ot1-f54.google.com. [209.85.210.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 20sm28250005oth.43.2019.08.12.01.23.42 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f54.google.com with SMTP id b7so105617980otl.11 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:23:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:4c14:: with SMTP id z20mr14371749oia.121.1565598222352; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:23:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 09:23:06 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Zeev Suraski , Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e79ec0058fe73da3" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] P++: FAQ From: phpmailinglists@gmail.com (Peter Bowyer) --000000000000e79ec0058fe73da3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 05:32, Andi Gutmans wrote: > I must admit that the first time I read Zeev=E2=80=99s email I got anxiou= s... but > it is frustrating that PHP has a WAY better runtime than Python and most > other dynamic languages yet is falling out of fashion. In the case of Python, it seems to be the numerical, scientific and linear algebra libraries that's driving its popularity. I agree PHP has a way better runtime and it is frustrating to see this happen. > It=E2=80=99s strange given how much better it actually runs (really being= unbiased > here). > If PHP doesn't have the libraries people want, and if PHP is perceived as a web scripting language rather than a general-purpose dynamic language, then the better runtime isn't going to convince a large audience that it's the best tool for the job. Peter --000000000000e79ec0058fe73da3--