Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106532 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11955 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2019 19:32:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (76.75.200.58) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2019 19:32:12 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5d4e9057.1c69fb81.bdf14.8d8fSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 17:59:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 94.4.34.143 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: P++: FAQ From: markyr@gmail.com (Mark Randall) Message-ID: On 10/08/2019 17:08, Christian Schneider wrote: > There is a very vocal minority right now asking for BC breaking language changes who IMHO are a bit too quick dismissing opinions of very distinguished PHP developers. I would just question the assertion that it's a vocal minority when viewed in a wider context. In the realms of internals it may be, but this discussion board represents at most a miniscule fraction of those using PHP. Outside of these walls, on the likes of reddit, discord and other discussion mediums, it is my take that the majority seem to favour a leaner, cleaner, stricter language, even at the cost of some backwards compatibility. This is of course anecdotal, but I voted on a survey a few days ago and just checked the results again just now, and it shows the vast majority of people on that forum were in favour of pushing the language at the cost of backwards compatibility. Prioritizing backwards compatibility did not receive a strong response. I seem to remember listening to Nikita on Derick's podcast a while ago where he made comment on his observation that newer generation programmers were looking for improved typing and strictness. Mark Randall