Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106499 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69169 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2019 19:17:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-pl1-f171.google.com) (209.85.214.171) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2019 19:17:11 -0000 Received: by mail-pl1-f171.google.com with SMTP id m9so45018919pls.8 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fK4sZ+PbPsCtUSBVbCKOM4rcdGXzCUl7OTSCVoXDu4M=; b=ifEWQPe9fTrCrZ1ES5atHk3eFWWICiv6Wdl7ZkOstVF6UYzg2RuG8ANCHpOrJv6KSM nia6EuzP9GfcXTwv7b9TXQM/3JYcrb8zBk4ArjjL2a3BZq0rL5fxtkjLUt5sfMjLZSJa 5/k1D/2OIaTtR1xZCL4BKBJYB33FZcmYFk+gKTyIR7FFCL+9q2ymNjZcTCONFcePQvNN lXMH7xmd4qdrJ2n7QQid2AMtmOYStAQfDy0JLFc2NP8QH7k6U1XqxZ9uvWlF1u2jXaR/ mRlute7/T85VdhQzm7t8F/JWeekfl/Cc0lf8GWFXNaSgkPh6vD1jGrQB/MSxZIMarfdo itMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fK4sZ+PbPsCtUSBVbCKOM4rcdGXzCUl7OTSCVoXDu4M=; b=mlw7nVvAjTdlzmOKB9C/1nFNKSnRJGgZds7Js979Nf/tXAAlVzE3QhPsvdQh/pTa08 tnyw8r8Dx3u8GzDAt1A6JSF43RR8Rrn9ROT18eNcwp+BZ5ccEza8zBjL2fNuEnwU9D15 w4L+DAvtb89Aoj+duOAQc6WlwdOG1t6h2GdFaKxc3tvPg4+TRQvX9596unOQFQgMq38V jMnctcXewdO1k8zL0xFNRZsQ6tPumAhWtu0k9LGA0eRMbGq0jKm9ijee5ai0MuGCMzq0 xaLRwM+coqAH9z3giwetNk10Fj8UxFTXvpLKKUy8DKf5qisu5FT47iLlMW4HTo2GaKhP Oxuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXeflxbI1mjT3FO/R5eN6DEya33rR2J8Yo0AZAJaLRTXqiWOvA/ AKg1nfuA9+rnJw4TDFA5X8V31lhynUpSK7yxk8Y+hw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxcki6Yy43lXClsRoFJCWHlBiIQdKBXRzijY9HFodptAW5W6Hd+LhpGylliMvjuvSdwc5X5CiREdgjCWM5zoZo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:449:: with SMTP id 67mr20437196ple.105.1565369077213; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 09:44:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5d4ca16b.1c69fb81.bcb4a.9e51SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <5d4cb5da.1c69fb81.5608d.7c4bSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <22D11D79-3FA9-4A4F-BB2F-1F17BC268AD9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <22D11D79-3FA9-4A4F-BB2F-1F17BC268AD9@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 17:44:25 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Mark Randall , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 17:10, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > we=E2=80=99re discussing whether it makes sense to introduce a sister lan= guage to PHP. Zeev also wrote: > It will take no additional resources, First, those two statements are mutually exclusive. Second, the idea of keeping PHP as it currently is, and pushing people who want to evolve the language out from core PHP to make their own language, is effectively telling those people to make a fork of the project. This is not an appropriate thing to suggest. Please stop trying to regain control of the PHP project either through direct threats or through telling people that they should fork off the project if they want to evolve PHP. I strongly feel the conversations you are provoking on internals are not productive or healthy for the project. cheers Dan Ack