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To: Mark Randall <markyr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy
From: vsuraski@gmail.com (Zeev Suraski)




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> On 9 Aug 2019, at 19:02, Mark Randall <markyr@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On 09/08/2019 08:15, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>> You seem to believe that C++ is inherently superior to C.  And it's
>> entirely within your right.
>> However, there are projects - to this date - that prefer C to C++ for a
>> variety of reasons.  PHP is one of them, and others include the Linux
>> kernel, redis, nginx, and actually - the vast majority of the fundamental=

>> pieces of OS infrastructure our planet runs on.  This isn't just for
>> historical reasons - it has to do with a variety of reasons, and the
>> simplicity of C is one of them.
>=20
> I just wanted to amend a bit of present day context, as it happens, securi=
ty management at Microsoft is currently giving serious consideration to movi=
ng away from C / C++ and on to memory safe languages because of the benefits=
 they bring.

Regardless of whether or not it=E2=80=99d happen - this has nothing to do wi=
th the point at hand.  It=E2=80=99s not whether C and C++ are good or bad.  I=
t=E2=80=99s about the concept of introducing a sister language that provides=
 new capabilities and certain different behaviors, rather than changing the o=
riginal one.

We=E2=80=99re not arguing whether PHP/P++ are good, we=E2=80=99re discussing=
 whether it makes sense to introduce a sister language to PHP.

Zeev=