Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106486 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15006 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2019 15:11:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bisque.elm.relay.mailchannels.net) (23.83.212.18) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2019 15:11:11 -0000 X-Sender-Id: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E17F1A179E for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 12:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.thewebhostserver.com (100-96-148-111.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.148.111]) (Authenticated sender: s0seqk11zu) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AEF3D1A2886 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 12:38:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk Received: from draco.thewebhostserver.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [185.38.44.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.5); Fri, 09 Aug 2019 12:38:34 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: s0seqk11zu X-Broad-Ski: 4d665493660b5c03_1565354314220_3612634678 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1565354314220:300747204 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1565354314219 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lsces.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lYhrIFVznNr5tCmLRKBO8Tst2PhKEkBCv8dYybEA2/I=; b=TaMCdzCqgTqAmInFBlptgF/RPw u/wW+3L1z9tCE4VnfzegVDP4ob6oeh2aRkm6GPGp7VQgrJED1/DjFl1V29K7K78IN4gTOnFnZ43Jc GeAP+O5tUIbw7faOBlOizx+jb1J3YvFLvFMu8yQkQJQeRY9Veme0hvJVNF2gZAQkwLHn5B0IAIEgO mD6a465xUP9WA6eGL1/hdRHiIZmdwNABe3JuUkWetZuIkrcZLV4c2vljU9B+l4/p1N3P4kWRa+yQ7 zxJh4iDLQc93B0tTPdVRlpbGoZUPnG8qnHm+MYp9qx3zwKePg2WI9FchxaxLSPeix7oK0HrnOu3DY sXCMlxVA==; Received: from [85.255.237.90] (port=9184 helo=[192.168.43.83]) by draco.thewebhostserver.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hw4A4-001Ol7-FV for internals@lists.php.net; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:38:24 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <8a95f23e-4145-46ee-ba49-6c24c32c8243@Spark> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:38:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-ID: 1hw4A4-001Ol7-FV X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-From: lester@lsces.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-AuthUser: lester@lsces.uk Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bringing Peace to the Galaxy From: lester@lsces.uk (Lester Caine) On 09/08/2019 13:07, Zeev Suraski wrote: > It's very, very different. > > With this approach, even down the line in 2029, PHP remains PHP. None of > us has a crystal ball to predict the future, but my guess is that WordPress > will stick with PHP, and not move to P++. Based on feedback - Laravel (the > most popular PHP framework) - will stick with PHP, and most probably many > if not most of the new Laravel-based projects will do the same. As a simplistic view isn't it just another framework? Haven't the the likes of WordPress developed their own API on top of PHP and P++ is just another one? It just has the advantage that it can link deeper into the core engine than ones which simply sit on top? In exactly the same way C++ sits on top of C ? -- Lester Caine