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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 02:08:20 +0300
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To: Mark Randall <markyr@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy
From: zeev@php.net (Zeev Suraski)

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On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:25 AM Mark Randall <markyr@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 08/08/2019 21:17, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > [... and not in the Sith Lord kind of way.]
> > Thoughts?
>
> The idea of PHP being held hostage to eternal backwards compatibility
> fills me with absolute dread.
>
[snip]

> If you're not going forward, you're falling behind, and sometimes going
> forward requires sacrifice.
>
> Mark,

I'd like to state three things, and ask another:
1.  The differences between the internals@ schools of thought aren't
limited to just downwards compatibility issues alone - these were
highlighted because of the recent short tags discussion, but that's just
one aspect out of several - which I mentioned in my message.
2.  Different people have different preferences.  There's a reason that not
everyone is using the same language, or have the same mobile phone or the
same car.  Something it's not 'forward' or 'backwards' - it's about
'different'.  Is C++ better than C?  Many would argue that it is, while
others will argue that it's not.  Both can be correct, it's ultimately not
only a matter of objective truths, but also subjective perceptions,
preferences and the tasks at hand.
3.  Putting your apparent personal bias against backwards compatibility
aside - if P++ goes in the directions you're hoping for - towards giving
you the goodies on your wish list, why would you care if PHP still existed
without these new changes/features?

Zeev

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