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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 18:28:18 +0200
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To: Robert Korulczyk <robert@korulczyk.pl>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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=D1=87=D1=82, 8 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 17:56, Robert Korul=
czyk <robert@korulczyk.pl>:

> > Many people have talked about the potential impacts of keeping short
> tags.
> > I have yet to see anyone give an actual example where they have been
> > negatively impacted by their existence. I've given you my personal stor=
y
> of
> > how removing them will negatively impact my company. I welcome anyone
> that
> > can provide an actual incident where the existence of short tags hurt
> them,
> > or, the continued existence is likely to have a large negative impact o=
n
> > them in the future.
>
> I was bitten by short open tags. Despite the "no short open tag" policy i=
n
> our app, one occurrence of `<?` slipped through code review. It was in
> email template so it was quite hard to notice on production. Especially
> that short open tags were disabled only on CLI, so we had code leak only =
in
> emails sent by cron. It took over a month to notice that bug.
>
> You may be concerned about people abandoning PHP due to BC breaks, I'm
> more concerned about people abandoning PHP because of issues like this. I=
t
> gives me the impression that the language wants to hurt you...
>
>
> Regards,
> Robert Korulczyk
>
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>
I'd say this is not really a language concern and more tooling and testing
problem. It's a class of a genuine mistake everybody does from time to time
- be it wrong PHP tag, HTML tag or closing } added on the wrong line
resulting in a logical error.
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