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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

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On 8 August 2019 13:16:56 BST, Brent <brendt@stitcher=2Eio> wrote:
>I asked similar questions on Twitter, where Zeev replied the
>following:
>
>> With an estimated number of PHP developers
>> at 10M, 1% is 100K=2E Whether I know this for
>> sure is not at all the point - it's never how we
>> take decisions=2E The question is whether it's
>> reasonable or not=2E And my guess is that a lot
>> more than 1% uses short tags=2E
>
>It feels like much of the counter arguments are based on guesses
>without any real data to point to=2E


You can take that both ways though: the argument that short tags should be=
 removed is based on the same guesses=2E=20

I understand Zeev's frustration in being asked to provide the proof when h=
is position is that we shouldn't be spending any time on the issue at all=
=2E It should be up to those who think a change is necessary to demonstrate=
 both the harm of the status quo (e=2Eg=2E real-world cases of code exposur=
e), and that it outweighs the cost of change (e=2Eg=2E how many users will =
need to change working code)=2E

It would be different if we were choosing between two versions of some fea=
ture, but no-change should always have a starting advantage over change, wh=
ich is why we require a super-majority in primary RFC votes=2E

Regards,
--=20
Rowan Collins
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