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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags,
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From: brendt@stitcher.io (Brent)

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I asked similar questions on Twitter, where Zeev replied the following:=C2=
=A0https://mobile.twitter.com/zeevs/status/1158688885658046464

It feels like much of the counter arguments are based on guesses without =
any real data to point to. On the other hand it's unfair to dismiss the c=
ounter arguments altogether because of this, as there's no way to gather =
accurate data about the usage of short open tags, let alone know how many=
 developers using them actually plan on ever upgrading to 7.4=E2=80=A6

Kind regards
Brent
On 8 Aug 2019, 12:27 +0200, C=C3=B4me Chilliet <come=40opensides.be>, wro=
te:
> Le mercredi 7 ao=C3=BBt 2019, 15:57:02 CEST Chase Peeler a =C3=A9crit :=

> > Pretty much everyone (if not actually
> > everyone) that is against this R=46C has stated that they don't actua=
lly use
> > short tags, and do not advocate that anyone else use them either.
>
> This is what bugs me, the counter argument page from Zeev states =C2=AB=
I never use short tags in any PHP code that I write, and as far as I reca=
ll - I never have. =C2=BB,
> and at the same time =C2=ABput hundreds of thousands of people through =
additional pain when upgrading.=C2=BB
>
> Is there any data that support the theory that hundreds of thousands of=
 people use short tags=3F
>
> Did anyone in this discussion stated that he was using them=3F
>
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