Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106434 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30135 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2019 14:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com) (159.69.182.195) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2019 14:50:08 -0000 Received: from srv010.web.ichtushosting.com ([78.46.201.44]) by srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com stage1 with esmtps (Exim MailCleaner) id 1hvhM4-0000F3-BI from ; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 14:17:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by srv010.web.ichtushosting.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0185C3C6B; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srv010.web.ichtushosting.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv010.web.ichtushosting.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id UxkHSvC-WFDg; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:17:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [2a02:1810:2f21:1400:400::] (ptr-1ewoyg2mmwzkom2ztia.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1810:2f21:1400:45b:f53c:820:5a22]) (Authenticated sender: brendt@stitcher.io) by srv010.web.ichtushosting.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6518C0CF0; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:17:04 +0200 (CEST) X-MailCleaner-SPF: pass Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:16:56 +0200 To: internals@lists.php.net, =?utf-8?Q?C=C3=B4me_Chilliet?= Message-ID: <62c73b8f-df41-43c2-bb51-ceeaf607cacf@Spark> In-Reply-To: <1759114.DMe9nKvMbn@mcmic-probook> References: <1759114.DMe9nKvMbn@mcmic-probook> X-Readdle-Message-ID: 62c73b8f-df41-43c2-bb51-ceeaf607cacf@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5d4c12bd_216231b_a33c" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again From: brendt@stitcher.io (Brent) --5d4c12bd_216231b_a33c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I asked similar questions on Twitter, where Zeev replied the following:=C2= =A0https://mobile.twitter.com/zeevs/status/1158688885658046464 It feels like much of the counter arguments are based on guesses without = any real data to point to. On the other hand it's unfair to dismiss the c= ounter arguments altogether because of this, as there's no way to gather = accurate data about the usage of short open tags, let alone know how many= developers using them actually plan on ever upgrading to 7.4=E2=80=A6 Kind regards Brent On 8 Aug 2019, 12:27 +0200, C=C3=B4me Chilliet , wro= te: > Le mercredi 7 ao=C3=BBt 2019, 15:57:02 CEST Chase Peeler a =C3=A9crit := > > Pretty much everyone (if not actually > > everyone) that is against this R=46C has stated that they don't actua= lly use > > short tags, and do not advocate that anyone else use them either. > > This is what bugs me, the counter argument page from Zeev states =C2=AB= I never use short tags in any PHP code that I write, and as far as I reca= ll - I never have. =C2=BB, > and at the same time =C2=ABput hundreds of thousands of people through = additional pain when upgrading.=C2=BB > > Is there any data that support the theory that hundreds of thousands of= people use short tags=3F > > Did anyone in this discussion stated that he was using them=3F > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > --5d4c12bd_216231b_a33c--