Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106414 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19250 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2019 16:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ot1-f53.google.com) (209.85.210.53) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2019 16:49:09 -0000 Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id x21so11565132otq.12 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 07:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=benramsey.com; s=google; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=87F971jDB46Yqvw7ziLvDpn8GFWGN0PqjQsd8zOhWS4=; b=hp41kyvagBvlhoOmypgIZm23mUnKPdUeu55U+ZEd2Y3PHdoRjuIuuYymPBODSlCd4Y 4lDKiPDaAGmxwpGeSa6uSTQI5/8hLTxWR33LJboSKOeldtpTRzBWxXqOlyrBHNnAbKZB 2QKVBXMUK0g6seIEevb1to9uxDtQO6p/FFj8SAkTCX+tO3hZgEBYi35ufbfFlpnHi3Mh ykWDG4ASE6ILM4gIe4mzZqZbd7nNddTliVJfldM74EcbZxdGGB+NoYYitA9qzHQIePRw 1subjoFRgnyCcfKJMR+UFQjAhI8T70H7VqL4r6/th4HEP5/mPTqJCyz+cIkkS3YlwZ+R 5SyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=87F971jDB46Yqvw7ziLvDpn8GFWGN0PqjQsd8zOhWS4=; b=R9BANMWIeqsMSsaIoWAbswASOy/26YBx+h0xri3NnBE1phJNoBdIM8x0fF2ZisMUO6 9hv8qeyLPveeRzyiOfnZq4UIxqL9ISTr1XNiBsBUQgRVbj4y8Ug3uhhhqoltitOW7+QT qt5Sb1GGjhXoAQ2B3TdgCXNYvFkDY4Z3xSc4VXNz2oWIcvNr6RB3/dsPBd1LZHzlLbyd P3cmWOj4ux+HBn+ZVty1JR66Xb5EfkkbFVCDftBE0/flwd7keJyyTd+Gv99Q7wfimKAl u9Y4Rkug9HWVgr2iyvx0AkbgG0nGu9DODfeQwTya0ft1PraZtTGSyqHOu8MirvbYOkI5 K/gg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWhe5kNLIJDweEm8VVY/4H9qbVl34r1jJHY8zsEzVRAHlA/jBeK tsD0/MyiAY9lBQkkl5DhdAPxKg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3pc9fKEXiQ4UNRHs0bC8fTaN/wjX0EUFceYq3t6lx8Bf3eeCcQC311bIWny+KY8ok0DBIrQ== X-Received: by 2002:a02:3093:: with SMTP id q141mr10417047jaq.128.1565187363996; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 07:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.42.56] (h96-61-170-50.lvrgtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net. [96.61.170.50]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m10sm163678375ioj.75.2019.08.07.07.16.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2019 07:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01F1D1BB-F5CD-4703-B696-3C5D5AED1D62@benramsey.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_50DA24B9-365F-47B7-AB9D-43F807333C93"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:16:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <82FFAA5B-A169-48D4-8A8D-D5AE386C24A2@benramsey.com> Cc: PHP internals , Dan Ackroyd To: Peter Bowyer References: <82FFAA5B-A169-48D4-8A8D-D5AE386C24A2@benramsey.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey) --Apple-Mail=_50DA24B9-365F-47B7-AB9D-43F807333C93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Aug 7, 2019, at 09:09, Ben Ramsey wrote: >=20 >> On Aug 7, 2019, at 09:03, Peter Bowyer = wrote: >>=20 >> On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 14:56, Dan Ackroyd = wrote: >>=20 >>> I think when we adopt a Code of Conduct one of the things we need to >>> make explicit is that "claiming authority that is not codified" is >>> explicitly a thing that will not be allowed in internals discussions >>> as it seems to keep happening and results in a lot of confusion, and >>> frustration. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Documenting the project structure would also be helpful. >>=20 >> When the PHP Group was mentioned I went hunting for details. I found = a list >> of names at the top of https://www.php.net/credits.php but nothing = covering >> what their role or authority is. >=20 >=20 > Their =E2=80=9Crole and authority=E2=80=9D is copyright ownership of = the =E2=80=9Ccode, text, PHP logo, and graphical elements=E2=80=9D of = the PHP website. https://www.php.net/copyright.php Clarification: I didn=E2=80=99t mean to imply just the PHP website. I = meant the entire part of the PHP code base that is covered by the PHP = license. https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/LICENSE Cheers, Ben --Apple-Mail=_50DA24B9-365F-47B7-AB9D-43F807333C93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQToXQMR3fpbrPOmEOewLZeYnIwHGwUCXUrdIgAKCRCwLZeYnIwH G8SjAP992iub32Jyf6vYBR47+lcRrIvsdHiHC3q7sVFlFnpFIAD/UQoXTT4iccro a2i77v9/cCL46D5Su3DInXi8cONNlSw= =Njl9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_50DA24B9-365F-47B7-AB9D-43F807333C93--