Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:106410 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11473 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2019 16:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-pl1-f178.google.com) (209.85.214.178) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2019 16:29:16 -0000 Received: by mail-pl1-f178.google.com with SMTP id y8so40963250plr.12 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FqgMw1LR0OoxK7kyoiYJ/jdjTVPMkCpf8UxLplThj/M=; b=L1OvvtE3exvUdXrC9+XVgeBLMYpczSbyQoBctM2H9Q/nhqhZR+m1vY5QdN3Uocedul JIOet4KOcXvHS9Gd94eXcdtP1ch9pzOT7pVlpHn/RCo60O5x/NKSSEfkdHwZIvwFNhsP hwnvaEL+6JBLh3UURwYjhPTP+IAUikXwAwOYDS5W9JHmqf6d2iOAF6Jb66knjRlTQ2Wn etpPEf+YaUlMH4igrTB7f1ZDCaVNtZRGZgxYUH6hGMtgdjUtUq15iTtBbUzxxHmc+T/a nStfrugVY3z05JjD7+SyAKAuArtRHl1jYJyKOH0Kck4Ikx2a/NgbQAKIrOAk1x6DRPia +EHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FqgMw1LR0OoxK7kyoiYJ/jdjTVPMkCpf8UxLplThj/M=; b=qFTGCd/2Lqcgmgj7XwD5H0BAIlxgL9tH6FVQ3xV/myXjZhQiDZiiaTLTyFVZKxutvQ PeXOF8zatfdyvELAlursOWUqYO6zycT+YiDTgXom7v02OZjndGSgHnr+0AFN7V0x/O30 snlhP8XVNPUBsC+gYOBPmRv9KcmO9ovN1Ahk3hD4LL/YC5kKmxlHL7o8AmLe716vqk+Q wGwXYA9KJqDG0N/AVsb5zDQxIgnJ+2imqWqevWf7kKyzPctU43p1VMOC2YWK8eEw+GcK IGA4e9mQlTDQu1CLOOzVw8RMftxK/YYQUwbqQEyF0nO4g0jWhEEMB5apFC1cJNhA/Gd/ SpgA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXWyM1c/yho6YbrrdwfxdR4KU/J/o6wVuSPY+jq6vxiEFbf0L1X mavBR6mLQnlbeDENrwe41hehddbmrqF4Ecvyqsrwcw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwmMlDayn3KJEPSSGWeNI2I4WlRNzoSpsGdKKxLMhMZm60wO++vi7zBoyRC+6s7+GvESQ7QahkymNa8d6rUJ2A= X-Received: by 2002:a63:7e17:: with SMTP id z23mr7955364pgc.14.1565186170159; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 14:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: To: Peter Kokot Cc: Andrey Andreev , "G. P. B." , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecate PHP's short open tags, again From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 09:45, Peter Kokot wrote: > > Yes, last time I was asking this, there was a clarification that > certain people from the group internals can veto particular RFC. Please could you point to where this alleged rule has ever been written down or agreed to? Although certain people may have claimed this is a rule, it's never been agreed afaik. I think when we adopt a Code of Conduct one of the things we need to make explicit is that "claiming authority that is not codified" is explicitly a thing that will not be allowed in internals discussions as it seems to keep happening and results in a lot of confusion, and frustration. cheers Dan Ack